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- From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian Ross)
- Subject: Re: Rae's "corruption"? (was Re: NDP "communism?")
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.172701.7579@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>
- Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
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- References: <LABACH.93Jan22085826@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:27:01 GMT
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- labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
- : In article <1993Jan20.142442.12986@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>
- : bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
- : > If I have time, I'll search for that Star article which chronicles
- : > all the scandals. I don't know many of them off the top of
- : > my head, because I just moved to Ontario, and most of them occurred
- : > before I arrived. It will satisfy those who are silly enough to
- : > believe that the NDP and political corruption are incompatible.
- :
- : (sigh.) Once more, it is not that we believe that the NDP is incapable
- : of corruption. It is that we do not believe you have 1) demonstrated
- : that corruption (use of public office for private gain) has occurred. 2)
- : demonstrated that this corruption is on par with that practised by the
- : older parties.
-
- (sigh). Ah yes, the party faithful respond to the call to arms.
- Read Gerald's summary posted a few days ago. When I get time, I'll
- search for the Star article.
-
- : Sure, the NDP govt. in Ontario has been incompetent. But not because of
- : the slick, self-serving politicians it is so trendy to blame. Many of
-
- Are you saying that slick, self-serving politicians shouldn't be blamed?
- Or that the NDP are not slick-serving politicians?
-
- : those incompetents were filling a place for the NDP in the election, not
- : expecting to win. A friend of mine was on staff with the campaign, and
- : informed me that they had candidates trying to quit in mid-campaign as
- : they realized that they were going to win. These people were not
- : prepared for a term in office and were taken completely off-guard.
-
- This is really lame! You're basically saying that NDP = Rhino Party.
- If the NDP, or any party, is actually running candidates that aren't
- intended to win, then perhaps the party on the whole should disband and
- leave politics to other parties that are serious. Unless, of course,
- they're fielding joke candidates as you are implying.
-
- : This does not excuse incompetence in government. Only serious
- : candidates, even in apparently hopeless seats, ought to be selected.
- : But this did not happen, and resulted in the mess Rae has now. It is
- : not the slick politicians but the ordinary Canadians you are complaining
- : about. One wonders if the armchair politicians of the net could do
- : better.
-
- Yeah, right. A Tory or Grit makes a mistake, and they're slick evil politicians.
- An NDPer makes a mistake, and it's simply the result of the human
- frailty of an innocent, ordinary human being.
-
- Whether it's NDP, PC, Grit, or what have you:
-
- "Same trough. Different Pigs."
-
- : New Democrat "corruption" Tory "corruption"
- : Peter Kormos poses suggestively Cabinet minister Colin Thatcher
- : for a tabloid shoots, stabs, and bludgeons his
- : ex-wife to death
-
- Yes, you're right. The NDP really are a morally righteous and blessed party.
- Whereas Colin Thatcher is plainly a typical Tory (ex-Liberal).
-
- --
- Brian Ross
- bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca
-
- --
- Brian Ross
- bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca
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