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- From: terry@asl.dl.nec.com
- Subject: Re: Implications of hypothesis of subground states
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.203403.1148@asl.dl.nec.com>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:34:03 GMT
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- Hi folks,
-
- In article <1993Jan21.192756.23373@ns.network.com>
- logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan) writes:
-
-
- > .. My view is that Mills' claimed results are so fantastic that experimental
- > error is unlikely, and therefore Mills is either telling the truth, or is
- > running a scam...
-
- Dr. Farrell is definitely not the scam type. I think he is entirely sincere
- in his beliefs about subground states and his experiments, and that he is a
- downright decent fellow. However, I flatly do not accept his technical
- premises for proposing subground states. I am also convinced that no amount
- of tinkering around with that particular set of premises will ever lead to
- a theory that is consistent with how the universe as whole behaves.
-
- I know nothing at all about Mills except what I've seen on this group.
-
-
- > I think an example of "context dependent" would be the mass difference
- > between a hydrogen atom with an electron with a forward spin versus one
- > with an electron with a retrograde spin. These differences change the
- > "step" energies very slightly of the photons emitted in transversing the
- > various "n" states, yet Planck's constant remains rock solid. We end up
- > with pairs of closely spaced emission (or absorption) lines in our
- > spectrums.
-
- That is covered without change by _existing_ QM, though. Jim Carr could
- comment far better than I, if he takes an interest in a quick explanation.
-
-
- > | You seem to be shooting for the idea that the electron will "stop" when
- > | it gets to the proton surface.
- >
- > Wouldn't the strong (or is it the weak) nuclear force insist?
-
- Nope. Strong and EM normally don't usually "see" each -- they are two ships
- passing in the night, so to speak. That has to be modified by the (very)
- weak interaction, of course, but even then I suspect that if you could
- somehow stably stuff an electron into a proton it would still be several
- minutes (comparable to neutron decay times) before the electron and some
- quark bumped into each other via the weak force.
-
- There is no "solid" surface to a proton, only the outer edge of a bag of
- three asymptotically (sp?) bound quarks moving at very high speed. They
- don't like other quarks (protons, neutrons) much, but are generally
- indifferent towards electrons.
-
- Cheers,
- Terry Bollinger
-
-