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- From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Okay, it's not the inverse sprinkler problem...
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- Date: 18 Jan 93 22:41:30 GMT
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- Regarding the problem of what to do if someone is going to hit you
- from behind:
-
- First, the false assumption is that you might have time to do something.
- Unless you make it a habit to look in the mirror whenever you hit the
- brake, I do not think you will have time to do much of anything by the
- time you realize you will get hit, if you see the car coming at all.
- Not a lot of time available to you in an accident situation.
-
- I actually have experience with this one -- I was driving an MG when it
- got rear-ended by a Plymouth Fury and driven into a Ford Country Squire
- station wagon. The clutch was in at the time, free wheeling at about
- 10 mph (situation: 2 lane state highway, someone had just turned into
- a driveway and backed up traffic was starting to move; rain slicked
- road surface). While you think about the answer to this question...
-
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-
- In article <1993Jan12.160756.14894@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
- >Mark Schnitzius writes:
- >> At first it seems that "hitting the clutch" would be the
- >> proper answer, so your car would provide the least resistance
- >> to the oncoming car. But consider -- shouldn't your goal
- >> be to reduce the sudden acceleration that you will be
- >> experiencing? If that's the case, then maybe hitting the
- >> brake would be the correct answer.
-
- Yes, acceleration is the correct word here.
-
- Truly remarkable acceleration. I thought for an instant that I had
- popped the clutch with a 457 under the hood of that MG.
-
- >It might be, if your car was incompressable. In fact, most of
- >your injuries would probably stem from deformation of the car, and
- >subquent crush injuries and rupture of the gas tank and fire/explosion.
- >You did't give enough information to answer the question: is the car in
- >question a Volvo or a Pinto?
-
- No. Injuries are caused by secondary impact between the driver and some
- part of the interior of the car. The crushing of the car is your friend,
- particularly in modern vehicles designed to do just that -- although
- mainly in the front and back. If you have your belts on so you are
- conscious, there is plenty of time to get out of the car, although it
- is possible for the car to twist up and trap you.
-
- ---------------------
-
- Back to our little experiment. The damage was as follows: I think the
- Fury had a scratch or some of our paint on his front bumper, and we bent
- the trailer hitch on the station wagon. The MG was totaled, but mainly
- because it was not worth much to begin with. Its gas tank fell off when
- the impact caused the rusted straps to break, and the front and back were
- caved in about 6 inches. It was close to an elastic collision.
-
- Injuries were more interesting. The driver of the Fury was unhurt, as
- well as being well known to the local police for driving a bit too fast.
- The two of us in the MG were badly shaken but unhurt, although I think
- I had a minor whiplash injury. I was protected by the *low* seats of
- that old MG, so the whiplash was taken up by most of the upper half of
- my back. My passenger, the car's owner, was asleep and slumped down so
- the seat back took all of the impact forces. The driver of the station
- wagon had to be taken away by ambulance. His headrest was down, like
- it is in most people's cars, so that the top was just below the bottom
- of his skull. His whiplash was concentrated on a few vertebrae, and
- he was in much pain. None of his passengers, including kids riding in
- the back of the wagon, were hurt, so in this case a minor impact caused
- serious injury just because of the geometry of the secondary collision.
- (His shorter wife was probably protected by her headrest.)
-
- --
- J. A. Carr | "The New Frontier of which I
- jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu | speak is not a set of promises
- Florida State University B-186 | -- it is a set of challenges."
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