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- From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
- Subject: Re: Stephen Grossman
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- References: <spurrett.99.727386124@superbowl.und.ac.za>,<6owNXB1w165w@quake.sylmar.ca.us> <TORKEL.93Jan21205323@bast.sics.se>,<1993Jan21.202625.27001@ulrik.uio.no>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:41:37 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan21.202625.27001@ulrik.uio.no>, solan@smauguio.no (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
- >In article <TORKEL.93Jan21205323@bast.sics.se>, torkel@sics.se (Torkel
- >Franzen) writes:
- >|> In article <1993Jan21.183010.22929@ulrik.uio.no> solan@smaug.uio.no
- >|> (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
- >|>
- >|> >and will like Voltaire defend even his right to be met by proper
- >|> >argument, and not simply abusive language.
- >|>
- >|> I haven't noticed Voltaire saying anything about Grossman. But you are
- >|> a bit hasty, surely, in speaking of his "right to be met by proper
- >|> argument". Why do suppose that we have a right to be met by "proper
- >|> argument" (whatever this term may mean to you), whatever abusive twaddle
- >|> we spout on the net ourselves?
- >
- >I think it is important first to show that the guy is spreading
- >"abusive twaddle" on the net, however obvious it may seem to one-
- >self, regardless of person, for two reasons:
- >
- >1. We're showing the guy exactly what he is doing, which is
- > a stronger corrective than mere shouting and swearing. He
- > thereby gets a chance to improve himself,
-
- SG Improve myself? I don't understand...That's like discussing God as
- potential...
-
- instead of perhaps
- > being just ignorant about what he's doing.
- >
- >2. It _might_ have been misunderstood, and gives the guy a chance
- > to defend himself. If he cannot defend his actions without
- > further abusive twaddle, we have positively shown him what he
- > has done.
- >
- >In any case, the outcome is better than immediate fight.
- >
- >I do agree, however, that if the person in question ignore the
- >good attempts and/or go on like before, then he might be told
- >what your gut feelings towards him are. But first telling a
- >person what he is actually doing wrong might save the newsgroup
- >from a lot of flaming, and will therefore be in our own best
- >interests.
-
- SG I have a radical suggestion: discuss philosophy instead of me.
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- you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
- tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
- AYN RAND
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- Stephen Grossman <PMSC13SG@UMASSD.EDU>
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