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- From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
- Subject: Re: Tomahawk cost
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:38:51 GMT
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- From hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
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- Okay, let's get this straight...
-
- Ed, you wrote:
-
- |>> Rather a broad statement, considering the fact that no CIWS has yet
- |>> received a proper testing in actual combat, with multiple missiles
- |>> incoming from unknown directions. As far as I can tell all successful
- |>> CIWS firings have been in tests, with a single missile or a pair arriving
- |>> from a known direction. Were there any actual combat kills of a single
- |>> missile yet? Not counting Silkworms :)
-
- To which I replied:
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- |>>The only way you could have "multiple missiles incoming from unknown
- |>>directions", is to be on the open ocean at war with some other major
- |>>sea power or somekind of surprise attack while in a inland sea or such.
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- I was interpreting your statements as saying CIWS wasn't any good and
- debunking all uses of it in combat so far as not being "proper tests".
-
- But then you replied:
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- |> That's what I was getting at. The original poster seemed to be
- |> questioning the effectiveness of antiship missiles due to the
- |> effectiveness of shipboard close in defense systems. My response
- |> was meant to ask "Effective against what?" There are many different
- |> threat levels, and the systems are meant to address them all, yet
- |> we've really only seen the lower end of the threat spectrum.
-
- And Chris jumped in up with:
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- |> The point here is that CIWS is not all powerful, and I think it might be
- |> a bit hyped. Remember- it is a LAST-RESORT weapon. Else why does the
- |> USN have all those guided-missile cruisers to protect the carriers?
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-
- And that is essentially what I meant. No weapon system will do it all -
- that's why there are "layered" defenses. With radar and other sensors
- and all the layered missile defenses, it should never come down to having
- "multiple missiles incoming from unknown directions". IF everything works
- close to as advertised, then the CIWS should only have to deal "with a
- single missile or a pair arriving from a known direction" at most.
-
- And since, most (if not all) of the CIWS in use have a limited view-of-view
- anyway, the incoming direction is essentially already "known". By that I
- mean, a Phalanx on the starboard-aft of a BB can't swing around to engage
- a missile coming in off the port-bow.
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- TRAVIS
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