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- From: gawne@stsci.edu
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- Subject: Re: triremes
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- Date: 24 Jan 93 16:03:19 GMT
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- From gawne@stsci.edu
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- On the general subjects of triremes, other war gallies, and early navigation,
- a few reminisces:
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- Back a few years ago (no more than 5) some modern day Athenians actually
- built a trireme using plans from some of the old boat houses still in the
- harbor and such historical records as they could find. I think their
- intent was to duplicate one of the ships that fought in the battle of
- Salamis.(sp?) [The defeat of the Persian fleet by the Athenian fleet.]
-
- I recall from the National Geographic article (no I don't have a reference
- handy) that the initial sea trials found that the thing shipped water all
- too easily when rowed at speed and that Aristophanes was not exaggerating
- ing the opening scene of The Clouds when he showed sailors farting in each
- others faces whilst rowing. The water shipping problem was solved with
- leather sleves on the lower bank or oars. I don't recall what they did
- about the flatulence.
-
- As for open sea movement, I seem to recall that Greeks and Romans didn't
- like to get out of sight of land (read the Odyssey and the Anead for
- amplification of this theme). But the Phonecians apparently had no
- difficulty getting around on the open sea. This may have had something to
- do with their association with Chaldean astronomers who may have lent
- knowledge of the stars to their naval brethern.
-
- I know that the Polynesians still sail all over the Pacific in open
- canoes using nothing but knowledge of the sky and the sea to get them
- where they're going. Nope, not even compasses. There's a 1972 National
- Geographic article I used to recommend to my Astronomy 105 students called
- "Voyage of the HoKuLea", good reading.
-
- As somebody else has pointed out, the Ottoman-Turkish Empire continued
- to use rowed war ships into the 19th century. They would mount a long
- gun in the bow and obliterate an attacking ship by backing up onto a
- beach to gain stability for fire. The beached gun platform became as
- effective as a coastal defense battery using this tactic.
-
- -Bill Gawne, Space Telescope Science Institute
- MSgt USMCR
-