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- From: prichard@devon.larc.nasa.gov
- Subject: Re: triremes
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:38:03 GMT
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- From prichard@devon.larc.nasa.gov
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- mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers) writes:
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- Does anyone know if ancient warships (triremes and the like approx
- 300bc-300ad) sailed the open sea, or just crept along the coastline?
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- few real sailors creep along the coastline. too many dangers; shoals,
- fast currants, rocks, etc. deep water is safe water.
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- I know merchant ships of this period had the capability of sailing
- from Rome to Alexandria in favorable winds, but I would have thought
- that this kind of trip would be impossible or unbelieveably
- foolhardy for a fleet of triremes.
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- keep in mind that the lateen-rigged ships typical of the southern cultures
- could sail into the wind quite well. not as well as a modern yacht, but
- surprisingly good for such ancient times. people always think ships could
- only sail downwind until the 19th century, but that is not true. even
- the 18th century square-riggers could sail slightly into the wind (i.e.
- 80-90 degrees off the wind's eye). thus winds need not be all that
- favorable for a merchant ship.
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- I seem to recall the trireme-type ships only had relatively small
- squaresails, so it would be slow going without some oar-work. also,
- you have to consider the season and location. the Med has some seasonal
- and local weather phenomena with extreme winds. there may be routes/times
- when these could be avoided.
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- Another fact I have in the puzzle is that Rome lost 2 seperate fleets
- during the Punic wars just sailing from Siciliy to Carthage, so I would
- guess this would be about the longest open sea voyage that ancient
- naval commanders would attempt. But Im guessing.
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- only in the Med. consider the merchant voyages of the Arabs (from Africa to
- southeast Asia). not to mention the Vikings. in terms of fleet operations,
- maybe only the Chinese going after Japan would qualify.
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