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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Why not 120 VDC ? Why invert?
- Date: 23 Jan 1993 10:37:21 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- References: <1993Jan23.000753.14523@michael.apple.com>
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- In article <1993Jan23.000753.14523@michael.apple.com>, ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes:
- >Pondering this ... Why not just use a 120 VDC battery pack and use
- >120 VDC for a bunch of stuff? Lightbulbs don't care if they are
- >AC or DC,
-
- Well, actually, the fluorescents with transformer ballasts *DOL* care. They
- need the AC for the transformer to work right. Now, incandescent lamps will
- handle DC quite well, and fluorescents with electronic ballasts want DC, I
- think (but not necessarily 120-volt DC).
-
- >nor do electric stoves and ovens or other resistive heat
- >sources.
-
- True. However, if you care anything at all about energy efficiency, you don't
- use resistive heat sources.
-
- >Some tools have AC/DC motors. 120 VDC was a common motor
- >type not too long ago, so I'd expect some motors to be available
- >for things like house fans.
-
- But it doesn't work very well for driving synchronous motors.
-
- >Yeah, I know, you shouldn't have an electric stove or oven. But
- >the house already has one and my wife doesn't want to learn to
- >cook on gas. (though I think it is really 220 ... more batteries...)
-
- Cooking with gas it a lot easier than cooking on an electric range. With an
- electric range, you actually get near-instantaneous control of the amount of
- heat you're generating, instead of the 15-30 second lag with electric. Of
- course, induction ranges are a whole different kettle of fish.
-
- >So why not? Why not have a 120 VDC battery bank directly running
- >the incadecent lights, and any easy to change motors like heaters,
- >and any suitable electronic ballast CF bulbs? Then you only need
- >an inverter for the electronic stuff, some general purpose outlets
- >in the kitchen and other parts of the house, and maybe the fridge.
-
- Well, you've already told us you don't want to replace your range. Switching
- to DC means you've probably got to replace your refrigerator, your vacuum
- cleaner, your television set, your stereo....
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- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
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- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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