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- From: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder)
- Subject: Re: Enabling Technology and the Origins of War
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:15:34 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan21.010201.18512@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
- >The major primate researchers have documented that chimps kill chimps,
- >gorillas kill gorillas.
- >I haven't read the gibbon and orangatang literature.
-
- Neither have I. Have they written anything good?
-
- >It was a romantic myth popularized by Rousseau and incorporated into Marxism
- >that economically primitive societies were more moral and less warlike than
- >more economically developed ones.
-
- Very true. Marvin Harris makes an interesting case that war arose long
- before "civilization", as a means of reducing population pressure-- not by
- killing off a few males, which would have no appreciable affect on population
- growth, but by requiring tribes to preferentially rear males for fighting.
- Among the Yanomamo, for instance, adolescent boys outnumber girls by as
- much as 148 to 100. Their wars are not wars of conquest-- they make heavy
- use of backstabbing, for instance-- but they're enough to make war one of
- the leading causes of death among males.
-