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- From: gregr@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Gregory S Rogers)
- Newsgroups: rec.video
- Subject: New - FINAL PROOF about Sony TAE2000ESD Source Direct Mode
- Message-ID: <8462@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 09:45:07 GMT
- References: <9301222225.AA29235@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> <C1FpxI.2r8@ampex.com>
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- Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR.
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- The FINAL PROOF of how the TA-E2000 Source Direct Mode works is presented
- in this article. Read on, you WILL be convinced. But first;
-
- >When you connect up your TA-E2000ESD, set the unit to the "Source Direct"
- >mode, over-drive the analog audio input, and then attempt to explain why
- >the A/D overload LED comes on and the output goes into severe digital
- >distortion on peaks. The "processing circuitry" that the manual refers to
- >as being by-passed are the DSP functions. The analog signal is still
- >going through the A/D->D/A converters. (But I'd love to be proved wrong!)
-
- >- David Altekruse, dna@ampex.com
-
- Well I'm doing my best to prove David wrong :-). Seriously, David and I
- are discussing this off line as well. I believe that either David has
- overloaded both the A/D and analog buffer amplifier in his test above, or
- the relay in his unit which switches the signal perhaps isn't working. In any
- event I'm sure that an explaination will be found shortly. I discuss the
- possibility of overloading the analog buffer amplifier in a separate reply
- in a different article. Let me say here only that this condition can
- be forced in testing but won't occur in real life use. See the other article
- for details.
-
- This discussion may have already gone on too long for a limited audience so
- unless some interesting new direction or discovery occurs this is it for me.
- I apologize to anyone already bored but what follows might be interesting to
- some readers in a general sense. If anyone wants to continue the discussion
- please contact me directly.
-
- Proof that the A/D and D/A are NOT in the signal path in the source direct
- mode:
-
- 1. The block diagram in the manual. I and another have discussed before.
-
- 2. The overload proof that I proposed earlier. This has since been
- verified by others. We still must explain David's results above.
-
- 3. * NEW * The Frequency Response Proof. IMPOSSIBLE TO DISPUTE PROOF FOLLOWS.
-
-
- When the TA-E2000 is in the source direct OFF mode (path uses the A/D -> D/A)
- there is a loss of high frequency information above 22 KHz. The frequency
- response is restored when the source direct mode is turned on. How do I
- know this? Obviously, because my Golden Ears can detect the loss of 30 KHz
- frequencies. (HA, HA just joking. We don't joke about such things in net.audio)
-
- I measured the response of the preamp in both the source direct ON and
- OFF modes. Using pink noise and a real-time analyzer the frequency
- response is flat over the entire audio range including the octave centered
- at 31.5 KHz when the source direct is switched ON. However, when the source
- direct is switched OFF, and the signal goes through the A/D and D/A, the
- 31.5 KHz frequency band drops by 10 dB!! This change in response is caused
- by the anti-aliasing and digital reconstruction filters that MUST be in the
- path whenever the A/D and D/A is used. This huge change in frequency response
- ABSOLUTELY proves my point that the A/D and D/A is switched out in source
- direct ON mode. If the A/D and D/A were in the circuit without the filters
- the result would be garbage. Since the filters are switched out, so too must
- the A/D and D/A be switched out of the signal path.
-
- END OF ARGUMENT! END OF DISCUSSION!
-
- Can you repeat this test without some type of frequency analyzer? Yes, if
- you have a simple sine wave frequency generator and a voltmeter. Put in a
- low level (don't overload the preamp) sine wave at say 30 KHz and
- measure the output of the preamp with a common voltmeter (an
- Oscilloscope is better if you have one). Do this with and without the source
- direct switch on and you should see a large difference in output.
-
- Well that's the end. If anyone wants to discuss other aspects of the
- TA-E2000 I'll be happy to join in.
-
- Greg Rogers
-
-