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- From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
- Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
- Subject: Re: 1980s Dream Teams Matchup
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.202958.11513@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 20:29:58 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.211137.16307@cs.brown.edu> <karnik.727497226@myria> <karnik.727827840@deci>
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- In article <karnik.727827840@deci>, karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
- >
- >>In terms of series he won 7 drew 5. Whether he was inspiring or not is a
- >>question best answered by the WI cricketers he captained.
- >
- > Would you agree that Richards inherited a *great* team, and left
- > behind a much weaker, less successful team? Of course, he alone isn't to
- > be blamed for the relative decline of the Windies but surely you can't
-
- Yes, but he followed one of the all time great captains also. Soon after Viv
- became Captain he lost the services of Garner, Holding and Larry Gomes, (+
- Lloyd's absence) so he did have to fashio his own team to an extent.
-
- > compare his captaincy with that of Lloyd, Brearley or Imran? Seemed to me
- > that he wasn't exactly an inspirational captain who could get his team to
- > rally behind him - but no, I am not one of the cricketers he captained. :-)
-
- There are two counter arguments about Viv. One is that he was a moody arrogant
- SOB who allowed the WI team to go into decline by lack of leadership. The
- other is that he was a captain who maintained pride in a winning team, and was
- successful in maintaining the WIs #1 postion. I think it's a bit of both.
-
- Unlike Lloyd, Brearley and Imran, Viv saw no need to dispense diplomacy,
- especially in his various contretemps with the press and variuos officials. He
- therefore suffered in his PR, much of it self-inflicted. THis does not appear
- inspirational I will admit.
-
- At the end of the day you can only judge him on his record, 12-7-5-0.
- >
- > P.S. This has nothing to do with Richards the batsman!
- >
- >>McBean
- >
- > P.S. Look, no more copyright violations :-)
- >
-
- I'm touched! Shall I devise a new jingo .sig for you :-)
-
- >
- > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
- > | Neeran M. Karnik | #2 fan of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar on r.s.c. :-> |
- > | Dept. of CompSci.| "I am Sachin's number one fan" - Sunil Gavaskar |
- > | U of Minnesota | "A jewel in India's crown" - Tony Cozier |
- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- McBean
-
- definition of a "kanna": ???
-