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- From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
- Subject: Re: Lefty Grove....
- Organization: MOTOROLA
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:52:36 GMT
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- In article <21631@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary
- She's Making Eyes Huckabay) wrote:
- >
- >
- > Douglas Fowler writes:
- >
- > + Boston Red Sox
- > +
- > +Starting Pitcher
- > +Cy Young
- > +Babe Ruth
- > +Roger Clemens
- > +Lefty Grove
- > +
- > + Boston-Because of their park or something, there is a misconception
- > +that this team is not pitching-rich. However, unless you're the Pirates,
- > +after 90 years you should have at least some pitching! Look at this: Cy
- > +Young in his prime; Babe Ruth, about whom Tris Speaker said that "he made a
- > +mistake by switching to the outfield"; Roger Clemens; and a still very good
- > +Lefty Grove.
- >
- > In my opinion, Lefty Grove is the BEST pitcher in the history of baseball,
- > bar none. I don't think Young, Ruth, or Clemens deserves to be ranked
- > ahead of him, as you imply here. Perhaps Clemens WILL deserve that at some
- > point, though.
- >
- > Grove...
- >
- > Played 17 years in the bigs, and led the league in ERA 9 times in those
- > 17 years. His career ERA of 3.06 is AMAZING when taken in the context of
- > the era in which he played. Clemens' career ERA of 2.89, when taken in
- > context, is roughly comparable, perhaps not quite as good.
- >
- > (Source: TB II.)
- >
- > Of course, Grove played with Philadelphia, too, so there's that to consider,
- > but I don't think anyone, with the exception of Koufax, has the peak
- > value of Grove, and I don't think anyone comes close to the career value.
- >
- >
- > --
- > * Gary Huckabay * "Well, with the Benzinger signing, I think you'd have *
- > * "Dabbling around * to agree the Giants have gone a long way towards *
- > * the Gajarsky * plugging their outfield holes. He's a switch hitter *
- > * tree." * with power." - Walt Gray, Ch. 3 sports director. *
-
- I believe that Grove was at his peak pitching for the then-minor-league
- Baltimore Orioles, and that he then spent a lot of years with the A's. He
- probably wasn't at peak form when he was on Boston.
-
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