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- From: valrik@carina.unm.edu (Rick J. Valles VSC)
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- Subject: Re: Military flights (Was: Re: Jumping through clouds)
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- Date: 21 Jan 93 05:42:35 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan20.170229.20516@engage.pko.dec.com> koning@koning.enet.dec.com writes:
- >
- >I've seen the DZ symbol on FAA maps... after looking REALLY hard, knowing
- >where I was supposed to look. Those things are printed in grayish blue on
- >a similar color background; the contrast ratio may be 10% on good days.
- >In bright sun if you know where to look you MAY see it; otherwise, no chance.
- >
- >Apart from that, active DZ doesn't mean that airplanes are told to stay
- >away. It means they're expected to watch out for skydivers. Likewise,
- >skydivers are expected to watch out for planes, since the air above the
- >DZ is NOT exclusively ours. We're operating VFR -- see and avoid, remember?
- >
- >(I WOULD expect any IFR flights to be routed around DZs, but VFR flights can
- >go anywhere other than restricted airspace... and a civilian DZ isn't
- >restricted airspace.)
-
-
- Paul makes an excellent point about airspace. Many DZ's are located at
- uncontrolled airports or airstrips. Pilots at uncontrolled airports are not
- required to have a radio. Many pilots flying locally under VFR conditions
- don't call for a weather briefing and notams. Many sectional charts don't
- indicate parachute jumping areas correctly. My point about the A-7's under
- our 5-way during clear sky conditions was that there shouldn't be any
- expectations! Yes, SEE AND AVOID! (and talk to other aircraft on common
- traffic advisory and approach freq's if applicable)
-
- Now that I am a pilot as well as a skydiver, I have an entirely different
- view of jumping through clouds. My escapade of jumping through a fully
- obscured sky (above 5,000 AGL) 12 years ago now seems irresponsible. It
- would make for a pretty scary IFR flight if you happen to hear someone above
- you announce, "jumpers away!"
-
- Rick J. "Rocket J." Valles
- PP-ASEL-Body!
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- >
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