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- From: theisen@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
- Subject: Re: Why are Kenyans so fast (rebutal)
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:44:07 GMT
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- > 3) The genetic argument for athletic performance is old, but quite weak.
- > At this point there is an enormous body of evidence which suggests that
- > athletic performance has no racial component. I would point out
- > that the genetic variation between individuals in one of these groups is
- > statistically as great as the variation between individuals of different
- > groups.
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- I have read the Runners World article and was surprised by several of their
- conclusions. However I would like very much to see this 'enormous body
- of evicdence' which states that there is no racial component.
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- > 4) Their argument is inherently racist.It is racist because we wouldn't even
- > be having this discussion if the athletes involved were not African.
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- This is probably not true. Just to ask the Question 'Are there
- differences between groups of humans?' is not racist although it certainly is
- not politically correct. The observation that certain groups are, on the
- average, taller, shorter, heavier, and perhaps faster, is also not racist.
- Trying to answer why this might be, whether cultural or biological is also
- not racist, though perhaps the interpretaion of the answers could lead into
- racism. The answers themselves are just right or wrong.
-
- > Yet there is an equal genetic distance between the
- > French and the Germans as between the East Africans and West Africans.
-
- If this is true it is very interesting. Runners World certainly missed here!
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- Other points that The Article seemed to miss:
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- 1) that almost all the top sprinters from the world for the last 15
- years come from or train in the sunbelt states of the US (CA,Texas,etc)
- (this includes many forgein runners). In other words there seems to be
- an environmental factor at work here.
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- 2) I think there have been less than 5 whites ever to run under 10.0
- for 100m (if any). And I've heven't seen any whites run under
- 44.2 for 400m
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- 3) What about asian runners???
-
- 4) One thing I have noticed watching world class runners the last
- several years is that most have a very pronounced curvature in their
- backs. I don't mean big buttocks, but a curvature that thrusts
- the chest forward and hips back, it doesn't seem to matter how
- muscular the person is. This crosses all racial/cultural groups
- and is true for both sexes. (It's sort of like the new dynamic
- way they've depicted 2-legged dinosaurs, with the hips high and
- the chest forward). Is this curvature a prerequist to being a top
- runner or do the top runners develop the curvature. Or is the
- curvature irrelavant, and I'm just babbling?
-
- These are just some questions. And observations.
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