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- From: yhshowie@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Howard Wharton)
- Newsgroups: rec.railroad
- Subject: Re: NEC
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 02:14:00 GMT
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- In article <16B61E192.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org>, M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org writes...
- >In article <C1A9rx.Hww@acsu.buffalo.edu>
- >yhshowie@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Howard Wharton) writes:
- >
- >>
- >>In article <3212@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, romeo@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Michael Stimac) writes...
- >> Power (motors) were changed at Sunnyside...New Haven's motors that ran
- >>into GCT were designed to run on NYCs underrunning 3rd rail not on
- >>PRR/LIRR overrunning third rail. I belive that the FL-9s shoes could be
- >>changed to over or underrunning.
- >
- >Sorry, I can't let this one go by without comment.
- >
- >I have ridden the trains between Boston, New York and Washington hundreds of
- >times since about 1953, and I can state unequivocally that I have NEVER been on
- >a train that changed power at Sunnyside! In pre-Penn Central days, the PRR
- >GG1s were swapped for New Haven EP5s (or earlier power) at the station stop in
- >Penn Station. Invariably so, as far as I know. PRR's GG1s were, of course,
- >serviced at Sunnyside. New Haven engines, I believe, were serviced only at
- >New Haven, though I suppose minor repairs could be performed at Oak Point
- >if they had to.
- >
- >As for the PC era, that was when they started running the GG1s through to
- >New Haven. I believe that some (minor) modifications to the overhead were
- >required. I seem to remember some early problems with the GG1s pantographs
- >snagging the wire at "dead spots" and phase breaks (e. g., Cos Cob Bridge).
- >
- >I don't believe that FL9s ever ran into Penn Station until well into the
- >Amtrak generation, and I don't think Amtrak ever used them routinely there
- >until the opening of the West Side Connection. There is a fairly well known
- >story that has come to be part of "urban legend", and may well be apochryphal,
- >concerning this. It is said that sometime after the New Haven had been running
- >FL9s into GCT for some time, the President of the Pennsy (perhaps Saunders)
- >was asked what about running them into Penn Station too and saving the
- >engine change at New Haven for their trains as well. His comment supposedly
- >was something like "Not on your life! If Mr. Perlman wants to blow his
- >station to Hell, that's his business, but there won't be any engines with
- >fuel tanks running into my Station!"
- >
- >
- >Len Bachelder Archives Committee, Boston and Maine RR Historical Society
- >MITRE Corp. Secretary, Massachusetts Bay Railroad Enthusiasts
- >Bedford MA 01730 Member, 470 Railroad Club
- ><M00209@mbvm.mitre.org>
- >
- >"Amazing love, how can it be that Thou, my God, should'st die for me!"
- > - Charles Wesley
- New Haven changed engines at Sunnyside before Pennsy ran catanary
- through Penn.
- New Haven ran afew FL-9s into Penn, I seen a few pictures of them
- sitting in the motor storage (area in the open between the station
- and the Post Office).
-