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- From: Bob_Hearn@qm.claris.com (Robert Hearn)
- Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
- Subject: Re: RAAARRGGHH!!!! not again!
- Message-ID: <Bob_Hearn-270193175807@192.35.50.165>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 02:01:25 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.155709.25082@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu
- (David Karr) wrote:
- >
- > In article <C1GuHw.zuF@austin.ibm.com> bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore) writes:
- > >[...]
- > >Back to the dice... Roll two dice 100 times. Get 100 pieces of paper and
- > >write the results of the first die on one side and write the results
- > >of the second die on the other side of the piece of paper. Put all the
- > >pieces of paper in a hat. Now pick a piece of paper out of the hat.
- > >You see a six on the piece of paper, what is the probability that the
- > >other side has a six? IT IS 1/11!!!!!!!
- >
- > No, it's 1/6. Have you tried it? Get someone who really understands
- > probability to explain it to you. Or you can simulate it easily on a
- > computer, but remember, a paper with two 6's can be selected in two
- > different ways but a paper with only one 6 can be selected in only one
- > way (if the first side you look at is the other side you have to
- > discard the event).
- >
- > -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-
-
- Well, you're right, but when you ask the problem the CORRECT way, that
- is, don't mention meeting someone on the street, then the answer is
- 1/3, not 1/2. If there were a club for every family in the US that
- had two children at least one of which was a girl, and everyone
- qualified joined, then only 1/3 of the member families would have the
- other daughter also a girl.
-
- Or, in terms of the paper hat, you have to look at both sides. If EITHER
- side is a six, then the probability that the OTHER side is a six is
- 1/11. It's the unintuitiveness of the way you're given the information
- that obscures the answer.
-
- Bob Hearn
- Spartacus Software
-
- Opinions expressed here are those of my empolyer, since that's me.
-