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- From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen)
- Subject: RAAARRGGHH!!!!! not again! (was:Re: Are you sure?)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.095218.17387@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- References: <1993Jan22.131719.36@janus.arc.ab.ca> <1993Jan25.115908.41@janus.arc.ab.ca>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:52:18 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.115908.41@janus.arc.ab.ca>, morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan) writes:
- >
- > (Some of my mail says "not again", and some says "please post a solution".
- > Since you can't please all of the people all of the time...)
- >
- > Two child families are uniformly distributed between MM,MF,FF,FM, in birth
- > order. Again, all four possibilities are equally likely. Stop here. Make
- > sure you believe that.
- >
- > Now, since at least one is F, the MM drops out, leaving MF, FF, FM, so that
- > there is only a one third chance that the sibling is a girl.
-
- Birth order? No one mentioned age here. The question was, that given one
- girl, what are the chances of the other also being a girl. Given a uniform
- distribution, that means for 1-child families, P(girl) = P(boy) = 0.5
- Therefore, given that one child is a girl, the chance that the other child
- is a boy, is 0.5, same as if it were a girl. Try this analogy, and you'll see
- what's wrong with your answer.
-
- You are throwing 2 consecutive dice. The first one turns up a six. What is
- the chance of the second also being a six. It's easy to see that because dice
- have no memory, the chance is also 1/6. Now, following your line of reasoning,
- there are 36 different ways to throw the dice. Because 1 six already has
- been thrown this leaves 11 combinations, one of which is a double six.
- So, according to you, you only have 1/11 chance of throwing a second six.
- Clearly this is dead wrong.
-
- --Ralph
-