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Path: sparky!uunet!olivea!charnel!rat!zeus!glporter From: glporter@zeus.calpoly.edu (Glen Porter) Newsgroups: rec.photo Subject: CAMERA FEATURE LIST V2.4 - includes Canon EOS A2E Message-ID: <1993Jan25.070106.1333057@zeus.calpoly.edu> Date: 25 Jan 93 07:01:06 GMT Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Lines: 944 Camera feature list version 2.4 was compiled on 1/24/93 ************************************************************************ **** **** **** D I S C L A I M E R **** **** **** **** No one is to be held responsible for the information in this **** **** CAMERA FEATURE LIST. It is compiled in my own free time, and **** **** as a token of gratitude to all of the faithful posters on **** **** NetNews group rec.photo - It is freely distributable, but if **** **** and only it it is not changed in any way or form. If any **** **** one would like to use this list for commercial reasons, they **** **** must contact me first, and obtain my written permission. **** **** Enjoy the list! Glen Porter (glporter@nike.calpoly.edu) **** **** **** ************************************************************************ To avoid using several screens of text on thankyous, I am forced to limit it down to "major" ones like . . . . Thanks goes to: Christian Decurnex for all (but a few changes) of the EOS A2E info! The new format is done using NAWK, and was done only with the help of Alvin Chia-Hua Shih at the University of Toronto, Canada. Thanks ACS! Please email all corrections (include model of camera, and the field name) to: glporter@nike.calpoly.edu ************************************************************************* Here is a blank Just in case you sould like to add a new camera body to the list 35mm, Autofocus, Interchangable lense camera's only! Just remember to leave one space after the == sign when entering data :-) Manufacturer == Model == Price at CW of O == Built-in Flash == Predictive AF == Portrait Program == Landscape Prgm. == Close-up Program == Sports Program == Indoor Program == Load Ext. Prgms == Ap/shutter Prio == All Manual Mode == Shiftable Program == FocusAssistLight == Slowest Shutter == Fastest Shutter == Multiple Expos. == Bracketing == Meter Modes == Focusing Light EV == Metering Light EV == Remote == Mirror Lockup == # of Focus Zones == Body Wt. w/o Batt. == Battery Type == Delay Timer == Mount == Flash Exp. Comp. == Exposure Comp == DX-override == Sync Speed == Meter Segments == Backlit Display == Interval Timer == Max Frames/sec == Shake Warning == "Trap" Focus == Removable Back == Rewind w/Tongue == Curtain Sync == Image Size Lock == Focus Motor == Zoom Motor == Extra Frames == Dep.Field Preview == Bat.Ind. Levels == Speaker on/off == Viewfinder cov(%) == Diopter Adjust. == Aperature Adj. == Material of Body == AE/AF Lock == Est.Rolls/Batt. & == ChangeFocusScreen == ********************************************************************* ____________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Canon | Canon | Canon | Canon | |Model | RT | EOS 630 | RBL/RBLs | RBl II/IIs | |Price at CW of O | $374.85 | $269(ADO) | $160/230? | $179/229 | |Built-in Flash | No | No | 39.0ft | ? | |Predictive AF | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | |Portrait Program | No | Built-in | Built-in | ? | |Landscape Prgm. | Built-in | Built-in | Built-in | ? | |Close-up Program | No | Built-in | Built-in | ? | |Sports Program | No | Built-in | Built-in | ? | |Indoor Program | No | No | No | ? | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | No% | No | ? | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | ? | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | |Shiftable Program | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | |FocusAssistLight | w/flash% | w/flash% | No/Yes% | ? | |Slowest Shutter | 30 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | ? | |Fastest Shutter | 1/2000 | 1/2000 | 1/1000 | ? | |Multiple Expos. | upto 9% | up to 9% | up to 9% | ? | |Bracketing | +-5in.5x3 | +-5in.5x3 | No | ? | |Meter Modes | MCP=6.5 | M/P=6.5 | M/P=9.5 | ? | |Focusing Light EV | EV -0.5 | EV 1 | EV 1 | ? | |Metering Light EV | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Remote | w/GR20 | w/GR20 | No | ? | |Mirror Lockup | FIXED!! % | No | No | ? | |# of Focus Zones | 1 | 1 | 1 | ? | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 23.1 oz | 23.4 oz | 14.1/15.8 | ? | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | ? | |Delay Timer | 10 sec | 10 sec | 10 sec | ? | |Mount | EF | EF | EF | ? | |Flash Exp. Comp. | Yes=ez % | Yes=ez % | Yes=ez % | ? | |Exposure Comp | +-5 in .5 | +-5 in.5 | +-2 in .5 | ? | |DX-override | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | ? | |Sync Speed | upto1/125 | upto1/125 | upto 1/90 | ? | |Meter Segments | 6 | 6 | 3 | ? | |Backlit Display | Yes | Yes | No | ? | |Interval Timer | w/back | w/ Back | No | ? | |Max Frames/sec | 5.0 | 5.0 | 3.0 | ? | |Shake Warning | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | |"Trap" Focus | No | No | No | ? | |Removable Back | Yes | Yes | No | ? | |Rewind w/Tongue | Yes | Yes | No | ? | |Curtain Sync | frt/rear% | frt/rear | frt | ? | |Image Size Lock | No | No | No | ? | |Focus Motor | % lens | % Lens | % lens | ? | |Zoom Motor | NA | NA | NA | ? | |Extra Frames | Yes % | Yes % | Yes % | ? | |Dep.Field Preview | Yes | Yes | No | ? | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 4 | 4 | 4 | ? | |Speaker on/off | Yes | Yes | NotApply? | ? | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 94 | 94 | 90 | ? | |Diopter Adjust. | Yes % | Yes % | Yes % | ? | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=M&C,f=M | b=M&C,f=M | b=C,f=C | ? | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | ? | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 75 & NA | ??? | ?/? | ? | |___________________|_____________|_____________|_____________|_____________| Special notes: ------- ----- % - USM lenses are, by far, the Fastest focusing lenses in the world (35mm), And insanely quiet. - The EOS 1,10, and ELAN have a focusing system smart enough to focus on horizontal lines. - most AF cameras don't! - EOS - can get more than 9 Multi.exp. if reset ME# before over. - EOS - can get more than 24 or 36 exp. if cover DX - All EOS cameras have Flash Exp. Compensation when using an EZ-430 flash - All EOS cameras gain Auto Focus Assist, when using an EZ-430 flash - ALL EOS (Except discontinued 620 have an intellegent Depth of Field prgm. - EOS cameras can Rear curtain sync using ez-430 or ez-300 speedlight. - All EOS cameras have optional Diopter adjust lenses for eyepiece. - EOS10s and EOS ELAN can load 120+ different programs through a Infa-red communications port via a light pen ($40 w/ programs). - EOS10s meters down to EV -1. - EOS10s & ELAN can reprogram partial meter button to DOF-preview. - EOS1, 10s, and ELAN can lock-up mirror during delaytimer, and during 2 second delay w/ IR remote. - EOS RT has a FIXED MIRROR _ it doesnt move, so it is ALWAYS locked up! - EOS 630 (same as 600) can use EOS or standard releases w/ optional Grip. # - for rebels, differences shown as "REBEL/REBELs". The REBELs has flash. ____________________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Canon | Canon | Canon | Canon | |Model | EOS 10s | EOS 1 | EOS 100/ELAN % | EOS A2E / A2 / 5 | |Price at CW of O | $359(ADO) | $1129(ADO | $329.85 | ? | |Built-in Flash | 39.9ft | No | 12-17m | 12-17m | |Predictive AF | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Portrait Program | Built-in | No | Built-in | Built-in | |Landscape Prgm. | %2Builtin | Built-in | Built-in | Built-in | |Close-up Program | Built-in | No | Built-in | Built-in | |Sports Program | Built-in | No | Built-in | Built-in | |Indoor Program | Several % | No | Several % | No | |Load Ext. Prgms | 120avail% | No | 99+avail% | No | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Shiftable Program | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |FocusAssistLight | Yes% | w/flash% | Yes% | w/flash | |Slowest Shutter | 30 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | |Fastest Shutter | 1/4000 | 1/8000 | 1/4000 | 1/8000 | |Multiple Expos. | Up to 9% | up to 9% | Up to 9% | upto 9 | |Bracketing | +-5in.5x3 | +-5in.3x3 | +-2in.5x3 | +-5in.5x3 | |Meter Modes | M/P=8.5 | MCSP=5.8 | M/C/P=6.5 | M/C/S | |Focusing Light EV | 0 to % | -1 to | 0 to | 0 to 18 | |Metering Light EV | -1 to 20% | ? | -1 to 20 | 0 to 20 | |Remote | IR | w/GR20 | IR | IR | |Mirror Lockup | Yes % | No | Yes % | No | |# of Focus Zones | 3orany1 % | 1 'X'% | 1 'X'% | 5 | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 20.3 oz | 30.4 oz | 20.4 oz | 23.4 | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | 2CR5/AA% | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | |Delay Timer | 2/10 sec% | 2/10 sec | 2/10 sec% | 2/10 sec | |Mount | EF | EF | EF | EF | |Flash Exp. Comp. | Yes=ez % | Yes=ez % | Yes | +-2 in .5 | |Exposure Comp | +-5 in .5 | +-3 in .3 | +-2 in .5 | +-2 in .5 | |DX-override | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | |Sync Speed | upto1/125 | upto1/250 | upto1/125 | up to 1/200 | |Meter Segments | 8 | 6 | 6 | 16 | |Backlit Display | No | Yes | No | No | |Interval Timer | 1sec-24hr | w/ Back | No | w/back? | |Max Frames/sec | 5.0 | 2.5/5.5% | 3.0 | 5.0 | |Shake Warning | Yes % | No | Yes | Yes | |"Trap" Focus | No | Yesw/back | No | No | |Removable Back | No | Yes | No%%% | QD model | |Rewind w/Tongue | Yes | Yes | No | Yes | |Curtain Sync | frt/rear% | frt/rear | frt/rear% | front&rear | |Image Size Lock | No | No | No | No | |Focus Motor | % lens | % Lens | % Lens | %lens | |Zoom Motor | NA | NA | NA | NA | |Extra Frames | All w/oDX | Yes % | Yes % | All | |Dep.Field Preview | Yes % | Yes | Yes % | YES!%% | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |Speaker on/off | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 92 | 100 | 90 | 92v/94h | |Diopter Adjust. | Yes % | Yes=10 | Yes % | Yes | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=M&C,f=M | b=M&C,f=M | b=M&C,f=M | b=M&C,f=M | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 60 and 13 | 75 & NA | ??? | 60 & 18? | |___________________|_____________|_____________|________________|__________________| Special notes: ------- ----- - EOS10s has a metering range of -1 to 20 EV using a 50mm f1.4 ISO 100 - EOS10s has an optional active warning mode - won't shoot till it's still. - EOS10s can have 2 sec delay using IR remote. - EOS10s Has a PIC landscape program (depth of field), and a reprogramable Depth of field program, that can use only one focus area - and then figure out the lowest f# and position to keep in focus *just* the area between the two objects you set. Not a mindless max DOF program, like many/most of the others. - EOS 1 can use AA's when used with optional Power winder, and do 5.5 fps. - EOS 100 has metering range from -1 to 20 EV using 50mm F1.4 ISO 100 - EOS 100 is very silent - maybe quieter than Nikon F4 - thats QUIET! - EOS 100QD has a Data back - costs a bit more. - EOS 100 - built-in flash has no-red-eyes function. - EOS 100 can save 5 bar-code programs in the body. - EOS 100QD has date-back. - The EOS A2E uses your eye to figure out the subject area, to stop down for Depth of field preview - switchable, and exposes for the (1 of 5) exposure areas you are looking at. ____________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Nikon | Nikon | Nikon | Nikon | |Model | 4004s | 6006 | 8008s | 5005s | |Price at CW of O | $249.85 ? | $359.85 ? | $499.85 | ? | |Built-in Flash | 12ft! | Yes/43ft | No | Yes/39ft | |Predictive AF | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Portrait Program | No | No | No | No | |Landscape Prgm. | No | No | No | No | |Close-up Program | No | No | No | No | |Sports Program | Yes = Ph | No | Yes = Ph | No | |Indoor Program | No | No | Yes | No | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | No | No | No | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Shiftable Program | No | Yes | Yes | No | |FocusAssistLight | w/ SB- % | w/ SB- % | w/ SB- % | w/ SB- % | |Slowest Shutter | 1 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec % | 30 sec | |Fastest Shutter | 1/2000 | 1/2000 | 1/8000 | 1/2000 | |Multiple Expos. | No | No | Yes | No | |Bracketing | No | yes x3/5 | w/ back | No | |Meter Modes | M/C | M/C/S | M/C/S | M/C | |Focusing Light EV | -1 to | -1 to | -1 to | -1 to | |Metering Light EV | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Remote | No | Cable | RF/IRbulb | No | |Mirror Lockup | No | No | No | No | |# of Focus Zones | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 22.9 o | 23.0 oz | 23 ?? | 22.8 oz | |Battery Type | 4 x AA | DL223A | 4 x AA | 4 x AA | |Delay Timer | 10 sec | 2-30 sec | 2-30 sec | 10 sec | |Mount | Nikon | Nikon | Nikon | Nikon | |Flash Exp. Comp. | Auto/Yes | Yes | w/ SB-24 | No | |Exposure Comp | No | +-4 in 1 | +-5 in .3 | No | |DX-override | No !!!! | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | No | |Sync Speed | 1/125 | upto1/125 | upto1/250 | 1/125 | |Meter Segments | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | |Backlit Display | No | No | Yes | No | |Interval Timer | No | no | w/ back | No | |Max Frames/sec | 0.4 | 2 | 3.3 | 0.4 | |Shake Warning | No | Yes | No | yes | |"Trap" Focus | No | No | w/ back | No | |Removable Back | No | ? | Yes | No | |Rewind w/Tongue | No | No | No % | No | |Curtain Sync | front | frt & rear | rear/SB-25 | front | |Image Size Lock | No | No | No | No | |Focus Motor | Body | Body | Body | Body | |Zoom Motor | NA | NA | NA | NA | |Extra Frames | ? | 1 | 1 | 1 | |Dep.Field Preview | No | No | Yes | No | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 3 | good/bad | good/bad | Good/Bad | |Speaker on/off | NA | NA | Yes | N/A | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 92 | 92 | 94 | 92 | |Diopter Adjust. | Opt.? | Opt. | Opt. | Opt. | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=P,f=M | b=P, f=M | b=P,f=M | b=P,f=M | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 75 & 15 | 110 & 16 | 60 & 12 | 78 &19 | |___________________|_____________|_____________|_____________|_____________| Special notes: ------- ----- - All Nikons AF's (except 5005) have rear curtain sync when used with a flash with that capability. - 8008s and F4s = up to 19 hour exposures w/ Expensive databack. - Many of the Flashes, give the above Nikon cameras an Auto-focus Assist Light, when the flash is used . . . obviously. - Est.Rolls/BATT. # is based on the use of Alkaline-Manganese batteries. % - 8008s Rumor? >>Create own programs w/ tech. data back = BUCKS!! - 8008s allows for the changing of focusing screen - I have been told that the other focusing screens are useless also :-( - Nikon Factory can reprogram 8008 and 8008s to leave tongue out 2". ________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Nikon | Nikon | |Model | F4s w/MB21 | N90 | |Price at CW of O | $1569.85? | $749.85 | |Built-in Flash | No | No | |Predictive AF | Yes | Yes | |Portrait Program | No | Yes | |Landscape Prgm. | No | Yes | |Close-up Program | No | Yes | |Sports Program | Yes = Ph | Yes | |Indoor Program | No | No | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | Yes % | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | |Shiftable Program | Yes | Yes | |FocusAssistLight | w/ SB- % | w/ SB-25 | |Slowest Shutter | 30 sec % | 30 sec | |Fastest Shutter | 1/8000 | 1/8000 | |Multiple Expos. | Yes | w/ back | |Bracketing | w/ back | w/ back | |Meter Modes | M/C/S | 3D/M/C/S | |Focusing Light EV | -1 to | -1 to | |Metering Light EV | | ? | |Remote | EL% | ? | |Mirror Lockup | Yes | No | |# of Focus Zones | 1 | 2 | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 45.1 oz | 26.6 oz | |Battery Type | 6 x AA | 4 x AA | |Delay Timer | 10 sec | 2-30 sec | |Mount | Nikon | Nikon f | |Flash Exp. Comp. | w/ SB-24 | Auto/yes | |Exposure Comp | +-2 in .3 | +-5 in .3 | |DX-override | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | |Sync Speed | upto1/250 | to 1/4000 | |Meter Segments | 5 | 8 | |Backlit Display | No #% | Yes | |Interval Timer | w/ back | w/ back | |Max Frames/sec | 5.7 | 3.6 | |Shake Warning | No | Yes | |"Trap" Focus | w/ back | w/ back | |Removable Back | Yes | Yes | |Rewind w/Tongue | manually | no | |Curtain Sync | frt/rear% | frt/rear% | |Image Size Lock | No | No | |Focus Motor | Body | Body % | |Zoom Motor | NA | NA | |Extra Frames | ALL | no | |Dep.Field Preview | Yes | Yes | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 3 | 4 | |Speaker on/off | Not all | Yes | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 100 | 92 | |Diopter Adjust. | -1 to +3 | Avail. | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=PM,f=M | b=C&M,f=M | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 130 & NA | 75 & NA % | |___________________|_____________|_____________| Special notes: ------- ----- - F4s has all data inside though - F4s can get EL remote w/ MB-21 and 22. - N90 has both Focus Priority and Shutter Priority AF modes - N90 has 7 programs that you can program manually. - N90 can load external programs ONLY if it is the Sharp WIZARD model, and then you need an interface of some sort. - N90 has a 3-D metering system - how does it work?? - N90 allows focus motor to be in lens for AF-I lenses. 0.if 216<72 .nr 64 72 ____________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | |Model | 8000i | 7000i | 5000i | 3000i | |Price at CW of O | $499 ? | $354 ? | $229.85 ? | $119(ADO) | |Built-in Flash | No | No | 46-52ft | No | |Predictive AF | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | |Portrait Program | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | |Landscape Prgm. | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | |Close-up Program | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | |Sports Program | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | Yes (HI) | |Indoor Program | No | No | No | No | |Load Ext. Prgms | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | w/ Cards | No/No | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | |Shiftable Program | ? | ? | ? | ? | |FocusAssistLight | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | |Slowest Shutter | 30 sec | 30 sec | 4 sec | 4 sec | |Fastest Shutter | 1/8000 | 1/4000 | 1/2000 | 1/1000 | |Multiple Expos. | w/ Card | No | No | No | |Bracketing | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | No | |Meter Modes | M/C/S | M/S(manC) | Center | Center | |Focusing Light EV | 0 to | 0 to | 0 to | 1 to | |Metering Light EV | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Remote | EL | EL | EL | No | |Mirror Lockup | No | No | No | No | |# of Focus Zones | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 21.5 oz | 20.9 oz | 17.7 oz | 13.4 oz?? | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | |Delay Timer | 10 SEC | 10 SEC | 10 SEC | 10 SEC | |Mount | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | |Flash Exp. Comp. | w/ 5200i | w/ 5200i | w/ 5200i | w/ 5200i | |Exposure Comp | +-4 in .5 | +-4 in .5 | +-4 in .5 | No | |DX-override | 25to 6400 | 25to 6400 | No | No | |Sync Speed | upto1/200 | 1/(20-125 | 1/(20-90) | ??? | |Meter Segments | 6 | 6 | 2 | 2 | |Backlit Display | Yes | Yes | No | No | |Interval Timer | No | No | No | No | |Max Frames/sec | 3 | 3 | ??? | ??? | |Shake Warning | Yes | No | No | Yes | |"Trap" Focus | No | ? | No | No | |Removable Back | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Rewind w/Tongue | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | No | | |Curtain Sync | front | front | front | front | |Image Size Lock | No | No | No | No | |Focus Motor | Body | Body | Body | Body | |Zoom Motor | NA | NA | NA | NA | |Extra Frames | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |Dep.Field Preview | No | No | No | No | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |Speaker on/off | No | Yes | No | No | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 92/94v/h% | 92/94v/h% | ??? | 90 | |Diopter Adjust. | opt=10 | opt=10 | opt=10 | No | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=P, f=M | b=P, f=M | b=P, f=M | b=P, f=M | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/~no | Yes/~no | Yes/Yes | No/Yes | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | ? & NA | 65 & NA | ??? | 55 & NA | |___________________|_____________|_____________|_____________|_____________| Special notes: ------- ----- % - xi, 8000i, and 7000i =92%vert by 94% horiz viewing area, But can 7xi goto 150% at the touch of a button. - PLEASE NOTE - the 3xi and some others have VERY limited Viewfinder info. NO aperture, Shutter speed, etc - AMAZING ENOUGH!!!! - 7xi, 7000i, 8000i can focus on vertical and horizontal lines- no other Minoltas cameras can! - There seems to be a question as to how helpful the "fuzzy" logic in the xi's is supposed to be. It is supposed to "figure-out" what type of photo you are taking, and make the exposure adjustments accordingly. ??? AND it doesnt tell you what program it is doing either. - Minolta has NEW 35-80 PZ motor for xi cameras, that uses a motor in the camera body to zoom with. - for # of metering zones, "13hex+bg" means it has 13 hexagons in the middle, plus the background, for a total of 14 metering zones. - Minolta has only 14 cards, that wont work on all of their card cameras. - 7xi metering range is 0-20 EV in Matrix mode, and 3-20 EV in Spot metering mode - 50mm f1.4 ISO 100 ____________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | |Model | 3xi | 7xi | 9xi | 5xi | |Price at CW of O | $199 | $439.85 | ? | $329.85 | |Built-in Flash | 39ft | 40ft | N/A | ? | |Predictive AF | Yes | Yes | Yes | ? | |Portrait Program | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | ? | |Landscape Prgm. | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | ? | |Close-up Program | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | ? | |Sports Program | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | ? | |Indoor Program | No | No | No | ? | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | ? | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | ? | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | | |Shiftable Program | ? | Yes | Yes | | |FocusAssistLight | Yes | Yes | Yes | | |Slowest Shutter | 30 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | | |Fastest Shutter | 1/2000 | 1/8000 | 1/12000 | | |Multiple Expos. | No | w/ Cards | Yes | | |Bracketing | No | w/ Cards | Yes | | |Meter Modes | M | M/S/A* | M/S/A* | | |Focusing Light EV | -1 to | -1 to | -1 to | | |Metering Light EV | ? | 0 to 20% | ? | | |Remote | EL | EL | EL | | |Mirror Lockup | No | No | No | | |# of Focus Zones | 1 (wide) | 4 | 4 | | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 14.7 oz | 22.9 oz | 22.9 oz | ? | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | | |Delay Timer | 10 SEC | 10 SEC | 10 SEC | | |Mount | Minolta | Minolta | Minolta | | |Flash Exp. Comp. | w/ 5200i | w/ 5200i | w/ 5200i | | |Exposure Comp | +-4 in .5 | +-4 in .5 | +-4 in .5 | | |DX-override | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | 6 to 6400 | | |Sync Speed | 1/(60-200 | upto 1/200 | upto 1/300 | | |Meter Segments | 6hex+bg% | 13hex+bg% | 13hex+bg% | | |Backlit Display | No | Yes | Yes | | |Interval Timer | No | No | No | | |Max Frames/sec | 4 | 4 | 4 | | |Shake Warning | Yes | Yes | Yes | | |"Trap" Focus | No | No | No | | |Removable Back | Yes | Yes | Yes | | |Rewind w/Tongue | No | w/ Cards | w/ Cards | | |Curtain Sync | front | front | front | | |Image Size Lock | No | Yes | Yes | | |Focus Motor | Body | Body | Body | ? | |Zoom Motor | Lens % | Lens | Lens | | |Extra Frames | 1 | 1 | 1 | | |Dep.Field Preview | No | No | Yes | | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 4 | 4 | 4 | | |Speaker on/off | No | NA | NA | | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 92/94v/h% | 92/94v/h% | 92/94v/h% | | |Diopter Adjust. | opt=10 | opt=10 | Built-in | | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=P, f=M | b=P, f=M | b=M+P, f=M | | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/~no | Yes/~no | | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 60 & ? | 60 & ? | 60 & ? | | |___________________|_____________|_____________|_____________|_____________| __________________________________ |Manufacturer | Minolta | |Model | SPxi | |Price at CW of O | | |Built-in Flash | | |Predictive AF | ? | |Portrait Program | | |Landscape Prgm. | | |Close-up Program | | |Sports Program | | |Indoor Program | | |Load Ext. Prgms | | |Ap/shutter Prio | | |All Manual Mode | | |Shiftable Program | | |FocusAssistLight | | |Slowest Shutter | | |Fastest Shutter | | |Multiple Expos. | | |Bracketing | | |Meter Modes | | |Focusing Light EV | | |Metering Light EV | | |Remote | ? | |Mirror Lockup | | |# of Focus Zones | | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | | |Battery Type | | |Delay Timer | | |Mount | | |Flash Exp. Comp. | | |Exposure Comp | | |DX-override | | |Sync Speed | | |Meter Segments | | |Backlit Display | | |Interval Timer | | |Max Frames/sec | | |Shake Warning | | |"Trap" Focus | | |Removable Back | | |Rewind w/Tongue | ? | |Curtain Sync | | |Image Size Lock | | |Focus Motor | | |Zoom Motor | | |Extra Frames | | |Dep.Field Preview | | |Bat.Ind. Levels | | |Speaker on/off | | |Viewfinder cov(%) | | |Diopter Adjust. | | |Aperature Adj. | ? | |Material of Body | | |AE/AF Lock | | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | | |___________________|_____________| ____________________________________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Pentax | Pentax | Pentax | Pentax | |Model | PZ-10 | SF-1n | SF-10 | PZ-1 | |Price at CW of O | $199.85 | $239.85 ? | ??? | ??? | |Built-in Flash | 12 m | 14 m | 12 m | 14m | |Predictive AF | Yes | No | No | Yes | |Portrait Program | No | No | No | No | |Landscape Prgm. | No | Yes | No | Yes | |Close-up Program | No | No | No | No | |Sports Program | Yes | Yes | No | Yes | |Indoor Program | No | No | No | No | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | No | No | No | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | |All Manual Mode | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Shiftable Program | | | | | |FocusAssistLight | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Slowest Shutter | 4 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | 30 sec | |Fastest Shutter | 1/2000 | 1/4000 | 1/2000 | 1/8000 | |Multiple Expos. | No | No | No | upto 9 | |Bracketing | No | +-4 in .5% | No | +-4in.3x5 % | |Meter Modes | M and S | Center | Center | M/S/ P=2.5? | |Focusing Light EV | 1 to | 0 to | 2 to | 0 to | |Metering Light EV | | | | | |Remote | EL | EL | EL | | |Mirror Lockup | No | No | No | No | |# of Focus Zones | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 17.3 oz | 20 oz | 22.1 oz | 22.4 oz | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | 2CR5/AA% | 2CR5 | 2CR5 | |Delay Timer | 12 sec | 12 sec | 12 sec | 2,12 sec | |Mount | KAF2,KAF,KA | KAF,KA,K | KAF,KA,K | KAF2,KAF,KA | |Flash Exp. Comp. | No | No | No | | |Exposure Comp | +-4 in .5 | +-4 in .5 | No | +-4in.3x5 % | |DX-override | No | 6 to 6400 | No | 6 to 6400 | |Sync Speed | upto 1/100 | upto 1/125 | upto 1/100 | upto 1/250 | |Meter Segments | 6 | 2 | 2 | 8 | |Backlit Display | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Interval Timer | w/ back | w/ back | w/ back | Built-in? | |Max Frames/sec | ??? | 2.2 | 2.0 | 3.0 | |Shake Warning | No | No | No | | |"Trap" Focus | No | No | No | Yes | |Removable Back | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Rewind w/Tongue | No | No | No | Yes | |Curtain Sync | front | front | front | front/rear | |Image Size Lock | Yes | No | No | Yes | |Focus Motor | body | Body | body | Body | |Zoom Motor | Yes | NA | NA | Yes | |Extra Frames | 1 to 2 | 1 to 2 | 1 to 2 | | |Dep.Field Preview | No | No | No | Yes | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |Speaker on/off | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 91 | 92 | 92 | 92 | |Diopter Adjust. | No | Built-in | No | Built-in | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=MP,f=M | b=MP,f=M | b=MP,f=M | | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | Yes/Yes | No/No??? | Yes/Yes | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 120 & 25 | 150 & 25 | 150 & 30 | | |___________________|_____________|_____________|_____________|_____________| Special notes: ------- ----- & - SF-1n defaults to +/- .3 auto bracketing, but adj. to .5 steps only. - SF-1n can use an optional grip which accomodates 4xAA batteries. - PZ-1 also has a lot of features which can't be described by this table - like : "Modulation Transfer Function", "Hyper program mode", etc. . . ________________________________________________ |Manufacturer | Yashica | Olympus | |Model | 230AFsuper | OM-77 | |Price at CW of O | ??? | ??? | |Built-in Flash | 11 m | | |Predictive AF | No | | |Portrait Program | No | | |Landscape Prgm. | No | | |Close-up Program | No | | |Sports Program | contin. AF | | |Indoor Program | No | | |Load Ext. Prgms | No | | |Ap/shutter Prio | Yes/Yes | | |All Manual Mode | Yes | | |Shiftable Program | | | |FocusAssistLight | Yes | | |Slowest Shutter | 8 sec | ? | |Fastest Shutter | 1/2000 sec | | |Multiple Expos. | No | | |Bracketing | No | | |Meter Modes | Cw/backlit | | |Focusing Light EV | 2 to | | |Metering Light EV | | | |Remote | EL | | |Mirror Lockup | No | | |# of Focus Zones | 1 | | |Body Wt. w/o Batt. | 21.4 oz | | |Battery Type | 2CR5 | | |Delay Timer | 10 sec | | |Mount | YshicaAF | | |Flash Exp. Comp. | No | | |Exposure Comp | +-2 in .5 | | |DX-override | 25-5000 | | |Sync Speed | up to 1/90 | | |Meter Segments | 1 | ? | |Backlit Display | No | | |Interval Timer | No | | |Max Frames/sec | 1.8 | | |Shake Warning | No | | |"Trap" Focus | YES!!! | | |Removable Back | Yes | | |Rewind w/Tongue | No | | |Curtain Sync | front | | |Image Size Lock | No | | |Focus Motor | lens | | |Zoom Motor | NA | | |Extra Frames | 1 | | |Dep.Field Preview | No | | |Bat.Ind. Levels | 3 | | |Speaker on/off | No | | |Viewfinder cov(%) | 95x95 | | |Diopter Adjust. | opt(-5to+3 | | |Aperature Adj. | ? | ? | |Material of Body | b=MP,f=M | | |AE/AF Lock | Yes/Yes | | |Est.Rolls/Batt. & | 60 & 13 | | |___________________|_____________|_____________| **************************************************************************** * The following is given to explain the camera features on the * * List. I hope it helps - * **************************************************************************** CW of O, prices as of date on sheet - Camera World of Oregon (800)222-1557 They were used, because they don't lie about prices/stock/shipping/etc or play any price games - which guarantees Comparability of prices. CW of O prices may vary - some. Adorama prices are comparable generally a few to $15 more, and may be used if not available >> (ADO). Built-in Flash |39.9ft >> indicates that the flash has a QUIDE NUMBER of 39.9ft 13-17m means it has a guide number of 13 meters at wide angle, and 17 meters at tele. Predictive AF |Yes >> indicates that camera calculates where object WILL be when it can focus next. Moves to that distance, and takes the photo when the object gets there. Portrait Program |Built-in >> A program that shoots for low depth of field Landscape Prgm. |2 Builtin>> has 2 built-in (stock) landscape programs - either shoots at highest poss. f stop, of actually calculates the necc. f stop to get everything in focus between two marks as in EOS 10s. this INCLUDES ALL Depth of Field programs! Close-up Program |Built-in max Depth of field as in landscape, plus special flash intensity control. Sports Program |Built-in continuous/predictive focus w/ fasted poss. shutter speed. Also has fast # of frames/sec - continuous. Indoor Program |Several >>Adjusts for low light levels?? Load Ext. Prgms |99+avail>>Has a means of loading more programs via user interface (ie, Cards, Light port and barcode reader as in the EOS system). Ap/shutter Prior.|Yes/Yes Aperture Priority mode / Shutter priority mode. All Manual mode |Yes Has a FULL manual mode. Has meter, unless noted. Shiftable Program|Yes Has the ability to be used in standard program mode and after the camera comes up with the exposure settings the user can alter the shutter/aperature combination (while maintaining the same exposure) by "working" a single button or dial. For example, the EOS 10s comes up with an exposure of, lets say, f8 @ 1/250 - the user can change the seting to f11 @ 1/125, f16 @ 1/60, f22 @ 1/30, f5.6 @ 1/500, f4 @ 1/1000, . . . etc (Maintains constant exposure the hole time) JUST by rotating the dial at the right pointing-finger to the desired value. I realize that this is not myuch different than shutter or aperature proirity, but half of the time, I don't like the computers choice of fstop or shutter speed. gosh! I type too much! FocusAssistLight |Yes% Camera actually PROJECTS a pattern of Light, and focuses on the pattern = ability to focus in TOTAL darkness (while subject within range). Slowest Shutter |30 sec Indicates LONGEST possible AUTOMATIC (camera controlled) shutter speed - bulb doesn't count. Fastest Shutter |1/4000 Indicates Shortest possible shutter speed. Multiple Expos. |Up to 9% Tells the Number of Multiple exposures (on one frame-no film advance between exposures) that the camera can do. Built-in/stock, unless noted. Bracketing |+-5in.5x3 >>>> Camera takes one exposure at metered value, one at .5 stops over exposed, and one .5 stops underexposed. for a total of 3 shots per subject. It is all done automatically, 3 shots in a row, by pressing the shutter release button once. Meter Modes |M/P=8.5 Meter Modes - M)atrix, C)enter, S)pot, A)verging aka Multi Spot, P)artial (P=8.5 means 8.5 percent of frame.). '/' means nothing. Focusing light EV|-1 to 20 The Camera will be able to meter acurately within this amount of light available. Metering light EV|0 to 20 The Camera will be able to focus accurately within this amount of light available. Remote |IR Type of Remote/Bulb option. Release types: EL=electronic, IR=Infrared, C=cable, RF=radio. Mirror lockup |Yes % Does Camera have capability to lock mirror up at least a few seconds before shutter operates? Causes camera to shake less at time of exposure, Leads to sharper picture. # of focus zones |3orany1 % >>> the number of SEPARATE focusing zones. body wt. w/o batt|20.3 oz >>> The weight of the camera WITHOUT a battery or film. Minimum options inferred. Battery type |2CR5 Types of batteries that the Camera can use. Delay Timer |2/10 sec% >> number of seconds the Delay timer waits before operating the shutter. Useful for taking a picture of yourself in a group shot. Mount |EF The different lens mounts that work on the camera. Flash exp. Comp. |Yes=ez430 >>>> does the flash have the ability to flash at partial intensities? Whether set by user or by the camera. 'w/' means that it does when used in conjunction with this flash unit. Exposure Comp |+-5 in .5 >>> Allows user to define how much under/over- exposed the shots will be. This entry to left means that the camera can shoot 5 stops over, and up to 5 stops under-exposed from meter reading, in .5 stop increments. DX-override |6 to 6400 >>> can the user over-ride the DX film speed that is written on the can, and the range if it can. Sync Speed |upto1/125 >>> indicates the shutter speeds that a/the flash will work properly with. 'upto 1/125' means the flash sill work properly, when used from the cameras longest exposure time, upto 1/125 sec. Meter Segments |8 Indicates the Number of INDEPENDENT meter segments that the camera uses to figure out the 'correct' exposure. "13hex+bg" in 7xi area means that it has 13 hexagons in the middle, plus the background, for a total of 14 metering zones. Backlit Display |No Does the display on the outside have a light, so the display can be read in the dark? Interval Timer |1sec-24hr >>> what is the minimum and maximum interval, that the cameras interval timer can wait between AUTOMATICALLY controlled exposures? Max Frames/sec |5.0 The Fastest STOCK (no options) number of shots per second a camera can take - film advancing. Shake Warning |Yes % Does the camera have the ability to prevent the user from taking the shot, until the subject is still (prevents blurring)? "Trap" focus |w/ Back <<< this indicates that the camera has the ability to let you set the focus distance manually, and when anything gets in the area of focus, it will take the picture. VERY useful for unattended or wildlife photos! Removable Back |No Can the Back door be removed, and an optional film back be used in its place? data backs, bulk film backs, light boxes, etc . . Rewind w/tongue |Yes CAN the camera be told to leave the very end of the film out of the can, when it rewinds the film? gives user the ability to change films in the middle of a roll, shoot a second roll, and continue on with the first roll (after advancing past pre- exposed film)? Curtain Sync |frt/rear% >>> does camera trigger flash in the beginning of an exposure? Can it trigger flash at the very end of an exposure? AUTOMATIC only. Image Size Lock |No Does camera have a means to make all subjects all the same height on the film? (zooms in for shorter subjects, and zoom out(wider) for taller subjects)? Focus Motor |% lens Where is the Focusing motor placed??? In the Lens, or in the camera body? Zoom motor |NA Where is the Zoom motor placed, in the camera body, or in the lens? "NA" means it doesn't have one. Extra frames |All w/oDX >>> how many frames past 36 can the camera shoot on a standard 36 exposure roll? Dep.field preview|Yes % Does camera have ability to stop down the f stop, and show you what the depth of field will be? Bat.Ind. levels |4 Number of different battery 'power' levels that the camera can show. Include 'no battery', 'dead battery installed', etc . . in the count (if the camera distinguishes between them and the others) - 'off' isn't a valid level. Speaker on/off |Yes Can the beeper/speaker be shut off? "NA" means that the camera doesn't have a speaker. Viewfinder cov(%)|92 the percentage of the exposure that can be seen through the viewfinder. 92 = 92% Diopter Adjust. |Yes % Does the camera have a BUILT-IN diopter adjustment? How many settings? "opt=10" means that there are 10 different diopter adjustments that can be bought separately. Aperture adj. |Rot.Sw. What adjusts the aperture? Rot.Sw= rotary switch, lens= lens ring, buttons= up and down push button switches. Material of Body |b=M&C,f=M >>> Material of body: M=metal, P=plastic, C=polycarbonate. So: "b=P,f=M" means body=Plastic and Flange/mount=metal. AE/AF lock |Yes/Yes does camera have: Auto exposure lock? / does it have a means of focusing without being 'on' the subject? - there must be a better way to ask this!!!!!!!! Est.Rolls/BATT. &|60 and 13 >>> the number of 24 exposure rolls of film that can be shot on one battery / and the number that can be shot using a flash 100% of the time. ChangeFocusScreen|No indicates interchangability of focus screens w/ other screens than the one that came with it. I hope that this clears up some of the questions . . . . -Glen glporter@nike.calpoly.edu END OF THE CAMERA FEATURE LIST . . . . . . . . . . .!