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- From: Jimmy.Tung@dartmouth.edu (Jimmy Tung)
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- Subject: Re: T-MAX fogged by x-ray machines??
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- Date: 23 Jan 93 21:44:28 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan23.151335.1872@cs.brown.edu>
- rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Marshall) writes:
-
- > However, the guy insisted, so I let
- > them do it. As I was waiting for the bags to come through, I noticed
- > that the display monitors were in false color rather than the usual
- > black and white.
- >
- > So the question is, do you suppose this was some sort of CAT-scan
- > style system rather than X-rays? (This would of course cause no fogging.)
-
- I had a similar experience in Munich, Germany. My film didn't seem to
- be fogged, but the only fast stuff I had was some Ektachrome P800/1600
- which had already been exposed at 1600. That stuff was grainy (as
- expected), but not particularly fogged. I don't know what the new
- system is, but I saw that O'hare Airport, Chicago, USA had the same
- "color" x-ray system. Maybe it's a different freq of radiation, so
- that's not the same "x-ray" as the "old" system, and maybe it won't fog
- film as quickly. It seemed to me that the color corresponded to depth
- in the bag, or attenuation of signal. Could be that the x-ray source
- and the detector are now in a computer-controlled feedback loop so that
- the minimum number of x-rays are used to irradiate your luggage and
- film.
-
- All this still begs the question of what are these new security
- sensors. I thought, "CAT scan" refers to using multiple x-rays scans
- to cross-section an object, and derive a 3-D image vs. the normal 2-D
- "projection" image. Maybe, we could eliminate what it wasn't.
- Magnetic resonance imaging seems out -- too little time needed, too
- many problems with interesting things people but in their luggage, no
- signs warning of large magnetic fields, instrument wasn't big enough.
- Ultraviolet, visible, and infrared seem ruled out because to detector
- size limitations arising from the opague nature of luggage at these
- wavelengths. Microwaves maybe?
-
- Does somebody out there know the straight dope (beside Cecil Adams)? I
- tend to think that those are just fancier versions of the ol' x-ray
- machine. I suppose somebody could leave a couple sheets of
- photographic paper in the machine for say 30 minutes, and see what
- happens. I'm not sure that slightly fogged 35 mm film is particularly
- easy to detect unless you have photographed some known subjects, and
- can compare film from the same batch.
-