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- From: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
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- Subject: Techniques - important or not?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 22:13:37 GMT
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- I've just finished reading a book on some of the "soft" arts, like Hsing I,
- Pa Kua, T'ai Chi Chuan etc.
-
- When I consider the diversity of techniques described in those arts and
- others, and in the so-called "hard" arts, like karate, TKD, etc, I
- get a bit suspicious.
-
- Some thoughts - following on from the previous discussions on jitsu, do etc:
-
- Since some - many? - techniques seem mutually exclusive, they can't all be
- right - or can they? Lets see.
-
- I've heard it argued that the techniques must be regarded as part of the whole
- art, and so are "right" only in cerain combinations.
-
- But I don't buy that. In my karate style (Shotokai) we use a certain type of
- fist, whereas in Shotokan I was told quite explicitly *not* to use that type.
- There are not sufficient differences in punching techniques to explain why
- what is bad in one style is good in another.
-
- Another example - before I give my attempt at an explanation.
- In the Tai Chi short form it seems that one must keep the tip of the
- tongue pressed against the roof of the mouth during the whole form. This
- is because the tongue is seen as a vital link in chi flow.
-
- Now I am willing to believe that chi is a useful abstract concept to
- explain a complex set of body-mind reactions, but I would need a whole
- chunk of evidence before I accepted that the tongue was such a vital
- part.
-
- So here's what I think:
-
- 1. Most techniques in most arts are pretty useful things - *not* necessarily
- for use in the street, but for training the person in the way of combat.
- That's not to say there are no bad techniques - the eyeball strike
- to the opponents hardened fist is an example of one - but most of our
- regular stuff is pretty OK at least.
-
- 2. So it is a waste of time arguing about the details of specific techniques
- effectiveness. Their actual effectiveness in the street is beside the
- point - because that's *not* what the techniques are for.
-
- 3. The techniques are *training* methods, intended for prolomged use
- over many years, to teach the trainee the deep underlying skills
- needed in combat. A perfect technician will certainly be formidable,
- but nothing like as much as someone who has got beneath the technique
- and really appropriated the core - the Way - of the art.
-
- HOWEVER
-
- 4. It *is* good to insist on a technique for the purposes of discipline.
- The sort of detailed discipline developed by sticking your tongue to
- the roof of the mouth is vital to master an art. I don't believe that
- the tongue link is important because of Taoist view on chi per se.
- But I believe that it is important to teach the practitioner the sort
- of discipline required of a master martial artist.
- I think this is related to some of the ceremonies seen in Japan - like
- tea. To a westerner it looks daft to worry about where the ladle handle
- rests, and in practice it reaaly doesnt affect the tea.
- But such attention to detail affects the person - and that is the
- point.
-
- hello? hello? aww - did I put you all to sleep...:-)
-
- Anyway, in summary, I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
-
- I suspect that, at the top, the arts converge. It is foolishness to
- think that mastery of a bunch of techniques - even a big bunch - is
- really mastery of the art (do or jitsu).
-
- And what we do week in week out is *train*. It is the training that is
- important.
-
- Someone mentioned "Oriental Dancing" a week or so ago. I think I would accept
- that happily. There is a lot of dance in Shotokai. And I suspect in many
- styles. But such is irrelevant. What is important is the attitude of
- the "dancer". With the attitude of a dancer, he just dances. But with the
- attitude of the warrior, well that is the way to real martial art mastery, and
- real "power". It would be interesting to
- see how a top ballet dancer progressed if they began focussing their
- mind on the martial ways while training in their dance.
-
- Ah, but now I'm getting mystical. Good night.
-
- tommy
-
- Disclaimer: All IMHO
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