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- From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
- Subject: Re: SEALs
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.200618.11494@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- Organization: Twilight Zone
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:06:18 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.132059.3092@mtroyal.ab.ca> mtambay@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
- >
- >No flames intended but I wonder if Ms Ramirez didn't confuse the flak
- >jackets of some officers (S.W.A.T?) and the lack of such attire on others
- >with two different organizations. Does anyone know if the military involves
- >itself with police raid these days?
-
- Yes, they do. Most notably, the National Guard has seen an ever
- increasing role in drug enforcement operations. I don't have the
- exact numbers handy, but they went from something like 4 ops in
- 1982 to nearly one thousand in 1992 and theis budget grows every year
- as does their schedule. Not what I would call a reassuring trend.
- >
- >On another note, should the police wait to be fired upon to establish that
- >the gun was loaded.
-
- As much as I believe that cops (or anyone else) that engages in
- these tactics SHOULD be killed without hesitation, I also must say
- that in the case where they are in a legitimate raid and a person
- trains a weapon on then, that they do, in all reason, have the right
- to shoot. One cannot sit back and wait for the enemy to open fire
- after having pointed a gun (or whatever). But if a person shows up
- with a weapon, but does not point it (l;ike a gun for instance) I
- believe there is no right on the part of law enforcement personnel
- to open fire. If you don't have the guts to do the job right, to risk
- your life as such positions demand, then you have no business carrying
- a badge. These jobs carry with them particular risks and
- responsibilities, and if you are not tough, brave and honest enough to
- live with these, then do something else for a living. There are
- nearly no justifiable reasons for accidentally killing a civiillian
- in the course of a drug raid, or any other law enforcement activity
- for that matter.
-
-
- >If someone swings at me outside the dojo, I am not
- >going to assume that he is going to hold back at the last second.
-
- Agreed.
-
- -Andy V.
-