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- From: jchristian@desire.wright.edu
- Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
- Subject: Re: Openings
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.222631.6774@desire.wright.edu>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 22:26:31 EST
- References: <QfM7grL0Bwx2QsxH02@transarc.com>
- Organization: Wright State University
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- In article <QfM7grL0Bwx2QsxH02@transarc.com>, Stephen_Y._Chan@transarc.com writes:
- > We have 2 different viewpoints on the matter:
- >
- > 1) No matter how good the martial artist is, there are _always_
- > openings which can be exploited by their opponent(s).
- >
- > 2) The _best_ martial artists do not give their opponents _any_
- > openings to exploit. Either by timing, or positioning, the openings
- > only occur when and where their opponent(s) cannot take advantage of them.
- >
- > Stephen
-
-
- I know a guy who catalogues every new move he learns into his PC. So if you
- ask him, "What should I do against a long-distance roundhouse to the jaw?" or
- something like that, he can get into his PC and give you some options.
-
- Personally, I think this is a dork tactic.
-
- The question of the existance of openings seems a bit moot. Of course there
- are openings. Otherwise, there would be some super-duper stance you could
- attack/defend from without exposing any part of your body to danger. There
- would be some sort of super-duper attack you could throw, and so on. Or you
- could go to the above-mentioned guy's PC, flip through his files, and see if
- you can find a combination that leaves you invulnerable. It's doubtful, for a
- couple of reasons.
-
- (1) There are only so many possible ways you can move from any given position.
- These possible motions may number in the hundreds in terms of their variations,
- but that is still a finite number. Factor into that number the variables of
- time and distance, and the number of appropriate motions from any given
- position is rapidly reduced (for the purpose of physical combat). That
- means we cannot defend all areas at once, which means some areas are going to
- be open.
-
- (2) There are only so many perspectives from which you can predict the manner
- in which your opponent will move. If you know you are facing a judo
- practitioner and you are familiar with judo, then you will probably have an
- advantage in being able to predict the other person's movement tendencies. The
- same principle applies, if you know the other person pratices karate, aikido,
- or whatever. People have different perspectives about how to move their
- bodies, and understanding that perspective is quite helpful in predicting what
- they will tend to do or not do. But I think that most serious MAs want to
- expand their knowledge so that their perspective about how to move their bodies
- covers a much larger field than for other people.
-
- It seems that not leaving an opening for an opponent depends upon your
- knowledge of what your opponent considers an opening. But if you don't know
- your opponent's style, or if your opponent has a greater perspective of
- movement than you realize, then your reactions in terms of defending vulnerable
- areas are going to be somewhat sketchy. This is not to say you'll be
- unsuccessful in defending yourself, but it does leave a lot of room for error.
-
- (3) I don't believe you can attack without leaving yourself vulnerable.
- Someone else pointed out that an MA wouldn't attack, so there wouldn't be
- anything to leave open. In an ideal world, yes. But if you come home from
- work and see two guys beating the snot out of your son, chances are you aren't
- going to stand there and wait for them to turn on you. My guess is that most
- people are going to take the initiative and try to whale on the two thugs. But
- in doing so, you are attacking, and you leave yourself vulnerable.
-
- Someone else wrote that the two questions aren't really relevant because
- they're the same point being made twice. Maybe, but I tend to disagree. There
- are always openings, and your opponent is always free to exploit them (that's
- why they're openings). Whether or not your opponent is capable of exploiting
- them is another matter. I don't think you can predict whether or not your
- opponent is capable of exploiting an opening you leave them. An opening is an
- opening, and anything can happen in a fight.
-
- Besides, from a spiritual standpoint, I don't think it matters what's open.
- Fighting from a physical viewpoint can be very limiting. I'm goofy enough to
- think that all MAs aspire to achieve some spiritual understanding where they
- can transcend the dependence upon physical factors.
-
- Jeff
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