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- From: DHORTON@ENGLISH.AS.UA.EDU (David A. Horton)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Glock 10mm and CHP
- Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.930126081318.288@english.as.ua.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 16:24:47 GMT
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- Organization: University of Alabama English Dept.
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- Jim Del-Vecchio and Frank Crary:
-
- I heard a similar story about the Glock trials with the CHP --
- apparently Glock sent a shipment of something like 500 pistols to the
- CHP for evaluation. Upon arrival the armorers disassembled the
- pistols to see if the met certain criteria and tossed them aside.
- Emphasis on "tossed them aside" into a pile of Glock parts. Didn't
- bother to clean them.
- When the time for evaluation rolled around they simply assembled the
- Glocks out of the pile of parts at random. This was also done with
- the S&Ws. Apparently, the Glocks were much more "sensitive" to this
- mis-matching of parts than the S&Ws were. The Glocks typically
- experienced frame cracks more often than the S&Ws did, but it wasn't
- uncommon for a Smith to fail in some other respect, i.e, a broken
- extractor, firing pin, etc.
- #From what I recall, the torture test was something like 5000 rounds
- with out a single malfunction. No pistol was ever cleaned during the
- test. The only time a pistol was disassembled after the testing began
- was if it failed.
- I seem to recall that once the 10mm had been ruled out as a round due
- to its heavy recoil and the 40 was accepted, the S&W 4006 that made
- the 5000 round mark had a problem with a "creeping" firing pin. The
- pin would work itself loose and had to be pushed back in with a
- finger so testing could resume. While not ruled a product failure (
- she kept on spitting out lead), it finally broke somewhere around
- 5200 rounds I think. Glock, as I understood it, had to scramble to
- design a pistol capable of firing the 40 S&W and as such was
- handicapped from a R&D perspective.
- I also have the feeling the test was slanted in favor for the S&W.
- After all, one of the requirements for pistol selection was ease of
- take-down in the field and requiring no tools. Heck, what's easier
- than a Glock?? Even in the dark?? And the CHP had stringent deadlines
- for submitting pistols for evaluation. Made things kinda' hard for
- Glock and Colt. And the 40 had only been around for a few months.
- Hmmmmmmmm........
-
- David A. Horton
- University of Alabama
-