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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:37:03 -0500
- From: Edwin Huang <eh1s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Re: Essay Time for Felix (Was: Re: God Conference on Player's Rights)
- In-Reply-To: <C1F5vA.DIr@ais.org>
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- Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.mud.tiny: 25-Jan-93 Re: Essay Time for
- Felix (.. by jim miller@ais.org
- > mwilson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes:
- > >In article <C1A2py.4ou@ais.org> jgm@ais.org (jim miller) writes:
- > >>1. Explain the substantive difference between the elusive "it"
- > >> the blacks in South Africa don't have, and the lofty, muddle-
- > >> headed "rights" that Ken and I go on about but in which there's
- > >> no point because it's just a silly abstraction unless there's
- > >> someone with a sharp stick present to dole them out. In
- > >Substantive Difference: You get annoyed by your lack of rights on a MU*,
- > >you turn the power off and go to Burger King. Where's the power switch
- > >for Aparthied?
- >
- > Apartheid. This kind of argument gets you nowhere. If you get
- > annoyed by sexual harassment at work, you turn in your resignation
- > and go work somewhere else, because you can, right? Or maybe
- > pursue another field of interest. That country club that won't
- > let you join because you're black, you just drop golf and get a
- > different hobby, right?
- Let's take Jim's analogies further. You are offended at the portrayal of
- women by a certain author, you don't read his books, right? You don't
- like mail from Ed McMahon so you throw the letters into the garbage,
- correct? You believe in Gun Control so you don't subscribe to Guns and
- Ammo and instead subscribe to Bride magazine correct?
-
- Damn Straight I do and I would.
-
- > I was asking Felix a specific question -- what is the significant
- > difference between that kind of moral reasoning Felix uses to arrive
- > at the conclusion apartheid is a bad thing, and the kind other
- > people use to arrive at the despised conclusion that, say, spying
- > on someone on a mud is a bad thing. He refuses to admit that he
- > uses exactly the same sort of moralistic reasoning I and everyone
- > else does, because it would mean recanting a lot of earlier
- > posturing.
-
- I believe Felix is saying you are a complete idiot. I quite agree. In
- other words, I believe aparthied is a bad thing. I believe that mud
- logging is such an insignificant topic that only people like Jim Miller
- and Ken Aromdee would spend so much time and bandwidth obsessing over
- it. Dust is a bad thing for computers. People who let dust collect on
- their computers are morally warped cause they live in filth and squalor.
- After all, Cleanliness is next to Godliness. The moral concerns are NOT
- the same. If you weren't so limp brained maybe you can see that.
-
- > >It's amazing the conversations that go on here. I wish several of you would
- > >go put a paper clip in the electrical socket. If you live through, maybe
- > >you'll be able to tell the difference between Real Life (Burger Kings) and
- > >Virtual Reality (I'm sure somebody's MU* has a Burger King, but I doubt
- > >you'll actually taste it.)
- >
- >
- > I wish you would stop taking quick and easy jabs at a discussion
- > because dumb ridicule like the above can be written with little
- > thought.
-
- Actually, I believe Jim Miller has had intimate experiences with Burger
- King. But he doesn't work there anymore, do you Jim? What happened were
- you fired or something? Something about all patties deserved to choose
- between flame broiling and frying? People have a right to know how fresh
- the french fries are?
-
- I was so hoping for jgm@burger.king.com too.
-
- Pity.
-
- -dirque.
-