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- From: olounela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Olli Lounela)
- Subject: Re: SOS! IGS is in dangeous.
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.120831.18264@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
- Organization: University of Helsinki
- References: <1k50kdINNd9p@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1k56t6INNc1p@shelley.u.washington.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:08:31 GMT
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- In article <1k56t6INNc1p@shelley.u.washington.edu> li@aa.washington.edu
- (UFO @ IGS) writes:
- >Enjoy playing and kibitzing on IGS? Yes! IGS is a wonderful place for go
- >fans from all over the world to play Go and to meet new friends. This
- >wonderful place will be GONE very soon if we don't do anything. Why? The
- >root on 128.32.201.46 decided to shut down IGS in three weeks :-( :-(
- >because some bad potatoes abuse the IGS too much. They sent too many junk
- >emails to root to complain everything on IGS that make root mad and some
- >people used obscene language to harass other players. Most of us think IGS
- >is guaranteed, but it isn't. IGS' managers work for it voluntarily. They
- >got very few thanks but lots of trouble. Even they find a new site for IGS,
- >the problems still exist. Let's work together to save IGS (if we can).
-
- I agree completely! I find it unbelievable that some people (for loss of
- a better word...) actually spend time harrassing the root at icsib18
- _who_have_nothing_whatsoever_to_do_with_the_IGS_!!! (except for having
- kindly allowed IGS to be run there, of course) Besides being very very
- very childish in the extreme (to put it mildly), it is also equally
- stupid... I begin to wonder just when are we going to see the end of
- people who presume to know what *other* people want... never, I guess.
- Some people should never have been granted internet access (thoughts of
- room-temperature (in Centigrade scale) IQ spring to my mind).
-
- I really think that the IGS is a Good Thing, that it helps promote go in
- the Western World (and in the Eastern, too), that it improves the skill
- of the players (and onlookers) attending, and that it actually is just
- about the only real chance to play for *LOTS* of people!
-
- And some people would want to see an end to it! Gawds above!!!
-
- I do and will consider the act of running/improving the IGS a generous
- thing, for actually it must be very costly in terms of time and effort!
- I count it in the same category as keeping the go archive (thanks,
- Adrian!), which also must be time consuming.
-
- I really find it hard to credit that some people would think that trying
- to log into icsib18, or that sending mail to its root (and in
- unprintable language at that!), would improve anything at all. It has
- been clearly stated in lots of places that this does nothing of the
- kind! Lots of people have done wonderful work, building clients,
- answering all kinds of questions (Adrian even putting up a FAQ), and
- helping people in all kinds of ways.
-
- I really detest the people who do this kind of harm!!!!! Go get a life!
- If you cannot agree with the concept of the IGS, KEEP OUT OF IT! HANDS
- OFF!!! *IGS* *is* *not* *compulsory*!
-
- I myself am a regular of the IGS but have nothing to do with the IGS
- otherwise, except for some correspondence, and having the fortune to
- call them friends of mine. I have been in the IGS from the beginning, I
- have seen it grow and improve, I have seen most of the growing pains
- (even that one day when trying to start a game crashed it). I really
- want to express my absolute and undying gratitude for these selfless
- people who do the enormous job of improving and running it!
-
- > 1) Behave oneself (Okay, It doesn't work for some people.:-)) ;
- > 2) Registration (It may cause extra work for system managers) ;
- > 3) ......
- >
- >Please make your suggestion/contribution to save IGS. We can send our
- >discussion to system managers. Hope that will help us to have a clean
- >IGS.
- >
- >BTW, don't send any email to root.
- >
- >UFO[NR] at U of Washington, Seattle.
-
- However much I dislike increasing the workload, registration might be
- the thing to do.
-
- My apologies to anyone who has nothing to do with this this sad, sad,
- sad affair and thinks this post not quite proper. This post is my first
- ever that can really be called a flame, and truly this affair has made
- me ***_VERY_*** angry indeed. It's the very first time in *years* I've
- really been angry.
-
- I would include several smileys, but in the context that seems improper.
-
- --
- Olli, 3 dan
-
- E-mail: olounela@cc.helsinki.fi ! .sig still under construction.
- Blame me only for any opinions expressed. ! Never you mind, I don't either.
-