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- From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 20:24:23 GMT
- Subject: Re: Assess the blame
- References: <1993Jan22.175103.22673@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> <1993Jan22.213522.14987@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jan25.215252.11442@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <1993Jan25.215252.11442@leland.Stanford.EDU> altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus) writes:
- |
- |Bob:
- |>East isn't "bidding freely". He is showing playing strength in
- |>support of partner. I remember a quote about this from S.J. Simon
- |>on a similar situation. One partner said something like
- |>"How am I to bid on only blah blah at the 4 level" and the answer
- |>was:
- |>"You're not damn it! You're supporting me. The only difference is that
- |>you are going to play the hand"
- |>
- |
- |i agree with Bob 100% here... but that's my STYLE, and one of the
- |few things i actually like to discuss with people i'm about to play
- |with for the first time. i like to play that freebids after a takeout
- |double promise NOTHING, and that takeout doubles carry the following
- |message: "partner, i invite you to compete in any suit, please jump
- |right in with anything." as you might guess, playing this style does
- |not work well with off-shape doubles, and i don't make offshape doubles,
- |unless of course i need to show a hand too strong to overcall, which is
- |for me 20+ balanced or a REALLY good 18 count or so WITH a GOOD 6+ card
- |suit...
- |
- |playing takeout doubles which guarantee either support or a very strong
- |hand, East's bid is MANDITORY. (s)he has a potentially very strong hand.
- |
-
- I think the point here is that different people have different styles, and
- things all go together ... if you play that free bids after a takeout
- double promise nothing, then you have to play that takeout doubles really
- do promise the unbid suits or a terrifically strong hand; but playing this
- way, you also have to play reasonably sound overcalls. My style is to play
- quite weak overcalls; with such a style it's hard to also allow overcalls
- on decent 17-count hands. (now some people might play that overcalls can
- have an extremely wide range, and if someone, e.g. Bob, can convince me
- that such a style is reasonable and gets you good results, then I'll change
- my position.)
-
- So rather than saying "this or that style is WRONG," people should instead
- argue the strengths and weaknesses of different styles in a non-judgmental
- fashion.
-
- ben
-
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- "Can't we all just get along?"
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