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- From: rfriedel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)
- Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.soc
- Subject: Re: Crazy and incompetent drivers
- Message-ID: <1k4dtaINNp9g@uwm.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 22:27:54 GMT
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- References: <39488@sophia.inria.fr> <1993Jan26.194645.6757@adobe.com> <1993Jan26.210920.8794@adobe.com>
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- In article <1993Jan26.210920.8794@adobe.com> jciccare@adobe.com (John Ciccarelli) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan26.194645.6757@adobe.com> zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern) writes:
- >>
- >>I still haven't seen much discussion of what cyclists can do to convince the
- >>police to properly prosecute drivers who kill (either through malice or
- >>negligence). Are we really that politically powerless?
- >
- >IMHO, it has less to do with cyclists' political power than with the fact
- >that cars -- and all the hidden costs and awesome carnage that comes with
- >the package -- are just accepted reality. People -- judges included --
- >don't see how it could be otherwise, and until that paradigm is replaced
- >(if ever), drivers who kill will get off with far lighter sentences than
- >if they had achieved the same results, with or without malice aforethought,
- >with a *recognized* weapon.
- >
- >--
- >John Ciccarelli
-
- I want to followup on this. Last summer I posted details about an
- accident involving a guy pushing a wheelchair and a truck. This is
- what has happenned since then.
-
- A crippled guy, late 60s - early 70s, was crossing a street, pushing
- his wheelchair. He was using the wheelchair as a walker because there
- was some street construction in the area. He was crossing a side street,
- going parallel to an arterial. There was a stop sign to control this
- side-street traffic. He was near the crosswalk, but probably not in it,
- perhaps because of the construction.
-
- He was hit by a right turning truck that ran him over. He is a friend
- of our secretary's father and I heard that he remembers seeing the
- underside of truck. He lost his leg in the "accident."
-
- As far as we know, the truck driver was not charged with anything. The
- guy that got run over was less fortunate. He was charged with
- jay-walking. (Milwaukee is famous for charging people with jay-walking.)
-
- Ron Friedel
-
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- Ron Friedel
- GeoSciences UW-Milwaukee
- rfriedel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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