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- From: alan@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Alan S. Mazer)
- Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
- Subject: Re: how do you feel about large groups (was Re: Redwood National Park)
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:02:30 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.230948.6407@emr1.emr.ca> jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant) writes:
- >How do you feel about large groups (i.e. > 5 people) in the
- >backcountry?
-
- I think it's tons of fun. I go with such groups (7-15) several times a year.
-
- >In short, they can do everything
- >'right', according to the books, but they are still very
- >visible as a large group.
-
- To tell you the truth, we almost never see anyone else where we go so I think
- this is a moot point.
-
- >...and it still doesn't change the fact that there is a group
- >of people all tramping around the same camping area and
- >generally injecting a high density of people per unit area
- >into the backcountry. I think 3 groups of 15 people can
- >have a greater impact on the ecosystem than 9 groups of 5.
- >Perhaps those numbers aren't good examples, but you
- >get the general idea.
-
- I get the idea, but I'd sure like to see some justification.
-
- >For groups like Scouts and other clubs, I think it would
- >be better for the ecosystem, better for the people who
- >encounter them along the way and better for the members of
- >the group itself, if they split up into several smaller
- >groups and went their separate ways. Perhaps it will
- >require more trip leaders, but don't you think the experience
- >of a smaller and quieter group would be more worthwhile?
-
- Well, all large groups I've been in have split up almost immediately. Some
- people simply walk faster than others. And I personally have come to enjoy
- being part of a larger group (something I never _thought_ I would enjoy
- before I tried it). I don't understand the attitude of regulating such things
- because people will enjoy it more properly or in a "more worthwhile" way.
-
- >A smaller group
- >would listen and hear more things and would have more time
- >and fewer distractions so they could see and understand
- >more of their surroundings.
-
- But why regulate this? Why force me to enjoy the wilderness someone else's
- way?
-
- >So, what do you think? Should group size be limited? What
- >should the limit be? What should the limits be on a large
- >group that has fulfilled the technical obligations by
- >splitting into several smaller groups?
-
- Unless there's a problem (obviously there is in the Adirondacks) I would be
- against any limits on group size, especially in established areas that are
- already well-worn.
- --
-
- -- Alan # Mountain Dew and doughnuts...
- ..!ames!elroy!alan # because breakfast is the most important meal
- alan@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov # of the day.
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