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- From: jeschke@cs.indiana.edu (Eric Jeschke)
- Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
- Subject: Re: Head to TN, USA: A few questions.
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.095642.14710@news.cs.indiana.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 04:56:37 GMT
- Article-I.D.: news.1993Jan26.095642.14710
- References: <C1G117.IAG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
- Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
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- :We are considering a trip along Fontana Lake which would end at either
- :Clingman's Dome (assuming the road is open) or Smokemmont. The basic
- :advantage that we saw was that questions of water and weather would be
- :less difficult in this area of the park. Has anyone travelled along
- :this route? Other suggested routes?
- The road out to clingman's dome is generally not open until late
- march or early april, from my understanding. I was there last year
- in mid-march and the road was closed. You could walk out to the the
- main park road, but that'd be a long walk in itself (7 mi?).
-
- :As of now, we plan to use a tent rather than the shelters. In the
- :past, I have preferred this to the shelters. Opinions?
- You might want to sign up for a shelter for one or two nights.
- I have done two winter trips in there (both in March) and both times we
- had periods of cold, wet weather. If you have two days of straight
- rain it is nice to get into one of those shelters, make a fire and dry
- out your stuff. Other than this, however, the shelters aren't very
- pleasant. Hang your packs or the rodents will chew into them (and
- some areas like walnut bottoms, have problem bears).
-
- :What type of weather should we anticipate at this time of year?
- See above. It can be sunny and warm too, we had a couple of days
- of 70F last year. But especially up high it is generally cold, wet
- and windy. Snow (or more often rain) is likely.
-
- :I think we have decided on stoves and a tent. But, what do you
- :suggest for sleeping bags, cookware and food? In the past, I've
- :only been staying for a night or two, so the weight/space wasn't a
- :serious consideration.
- Take a good warm bag and plenty of food.
-
- :What is reasonable mileage for an extended stay (7+ days)? We are
- :planning for about 7-8 miles per day. My intuition tells me this is
- :a little light...especially at a low altitude without much change in
- :grade.
- If you are new to this I would suggest 5-6 miles/day. The trails there
- can be steep even if they are only up to 6000ft. And if you are properly
- equipped for winter camping (you better be) your packs will be heavier
- than normal. It also takes longer to set up and tear down camp in the
- winter, cook food, etc.
-
- :What are the top 3 items you'd think that newbies would not think of
- :(or know of, for that matter)?
- [1] Streams are high there in March because of the beginning of snowmelt
- and some trails are "officially" closed or discouraged. You should check
- your route with a backcountry ranger. If you decide to take one of these
- trails anyway, read up on high water stream crossings and know what to
- do in case of hypothermia.
-
- [2] Many backcountry sites require a reservation (it is not crowded
- at this time of year, but if the site requires one you have to have it).
- All backcountry trips require a permit (available by self-registration
- at most major trailheads).
-
- [3] Be prepared for winter camping, especially up high. Last year we
- saw two camps that had been abandoned up near clingman's dome. We had
- had two straight days of freezing cold rain and from the looks of these
- people's equipment they were not prepared for winter camping. As we
- followed the trail up the mountain we saw that they had abandoned more
- and more stuff, trying to lighten their load enough to get out before
- someone died. Sleeping bags, food, fuel bottles, extra clothes all had
- been dumped in an effort to get up to the lookout where a ridge road
- runs out to the main park road. This ridge road was closed and they
- must have had to hike the 6-8 miles out to the main road once they got
- to the top. It must not have been pretty.
-
- :What are the top 3 things you can do to lighten your load?
- Remove "luxury" items first: books, camera, toiletries, etc.
-
-
- :I'm sure we'll come up with some more.
- Bring a pair of large rubber gloves to wear over your regular gloves
- for washing up after cooking.
-
- :Email or postings both welcome.
-
- :Thanks and best regards-
-
-
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- Eric Jeschke | Indiana University
- jeschke@cs.indiana.edu | Computer Science Department
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