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- From: jhh@sprite.berkeley.edu (John H. Hartman)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: valve noise advice
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- Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:19:24 GMT
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- Having received sage advice from the net on many occasions I thought
- I'd relate my experience with a valve noise. Perhaps this will be
- useful to someone. I have a Ford 390 motor that recently developed
- a ticking noise in the valve train somewhere. I could tell it was
- in the valves, rather than in the bottom end of the motor, because
- it ticked at half the engine speed. The ticking noise would go away
- at idle, but was very noticable at higher RPM. The consensus of
- the net was a bad lifter. I tested the lifters by starting the car
- with the valve covers off (and with tin-foil over the oil holes on
- the rocker arms to prevent oil from flinging around the neighborhood).
- I then pushed down on the pushrod end of the rocker arms with a
- dowel, the theory being that the bad lifter would make more noise.
- No such luck. I then removed the pushrods and rolled them across
- my kitchen counter and discovered that one was bent. The ticking
- noise didn't go away when I replaced it, however (bummer). So I
- replaced all the lifters. This isn't an easy task on the Ford FE
- series because you have to pull the intake manifold which ways
- about a ton. The noise still didn't go away. Off to the repair
- shop for the first time in my life. They determined that I had a
- bad valve guide. Sure enough I could grab onto the end of the
- valve and wiggle it around, whereas the other valves wouldn't budge.
- This was the same valve that had the bent pushrod. Also, I could
- hear exhaust gases leaking up past the valve. Once I got the head
- off I could see that the valve seat was all munged up as well,
- probably a result of the guide failure. The moral of this story
- is that worn valve guides can cause noise in the valve train. Before
- you do anything drastic with the car, like replace the lifters or
- take it to a mechanic, check that you can't wiggle one valve more
- than the others.
-
- John
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- John H. Hartman
- Graduate Student, UCB Sprite project
- jhh@sprite.berkeley.edu
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