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- From: rrm@pluto.ssdp (Ron Marquardt)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Ford Tempo Problems (was: Ford Tempo Hesitates/Stalls)
- Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:04:32 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology
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- In article 2024@heurikon.heurikon.com, jeffd@ex.heurikon.com (Jeff Durst) writes:
- >
- > I bought a 1991 Ford Tempo GL brand new and back in November
- > it started to intermittantly hesistate when warm at stop lights
- > or stops signs. It is always on acceleration that this occurs.
- > It has also stalled three times since December 3.
- >
- > I have had it into the Dealer twice now for this problem, the first
- > time they clain to have found a vaccuum leak at the fuel pressure
- > regulator and they also cleaned some emissions stuff, the second time
- > they said they found the base idle speed was low, so they adjusted it.
- >
- > I asked them if they really feel they solved the problem, he said
- > no. I asked where do we go from here, he said basiclif the problem
- > happens more frequently so that they can recreate it they will then
- > be able to do more for me.
-
- I've had the exact same experience that you've had with a Tempo stalling
- under identical circumstances. I have an '88 Tempo GL with just under 40,000 miles
- on it. For two years I was trying to get just such a stalling problem fixed
- and only recently (well, about 6-9 months ago) actually found out the real cause.
- For the '88 Tempos at least, Ford has a recall out to fix this very problem.
- The rear fuel pump can be intermittently bad, and cause stalling (or hesitation)
- when trying to accelerate. After they replaced it (for free, although I had to
- pay for various "adjustments" for the two years before while these yahoos tried
- to fix the problem), I have had no further problem with it stalling. Good luck...
-
- That's not to say I still don't have another problem with it. The damn
- engine mounts keep having to be replaced. And, no, its not some scam where the
- dealer is just trying to get a few more bucks to fix a nonexistent problem. I've
- never seen an engine get torqued so badly before (and its not even that powerful!).
- I had to have them replaced about a year and a half ago (at only about 25,000
- miles on the car), again this past November, and yet again just last week. The
- whole car will shake when going up a steep hill (or under other high-power
- situations), and pop when accelerating from a stop (sounds sorta like a bad strut
- or tie rod might). If ANYONE has any ideas please let me know. I'm stuck going
- back to the same dealer right now, simply 'cause its a warranty replacement (a
- warranty from the previous attempts, the original car warranty has expired, and
- engine mounts were NEVER covered by it. They aren't considered part of the
- powertrain, even though they're rather essential to its operation!!!). The head
- mechanic there (who seems to know what he's talking about, but I could be wrong)
- claims that Ford has had problems with engine mounts on Taurus' with the larger
- engines, and he also thinks that they've been changing the engine mount design
- (using softer rubber) to compete with the Japanese for a quieter, smoother ride.
- Too bad, then, that the ride is smoothe only until the mounts give way...
-
- Anyway, Jeff, let me give you one last piece of advice, after getting on
- Ford's case for quite some time now... Don't bother calling the 800 number to
- complain -- go staight to the top. The main switchboard number for Ford Headquarters
- is (313) 322-3000. Ask for Harold Poling's office; he's the the CEO of Ford.
- They will transfer you there without hesitation. Tell the individual who answers
- your problems and he/she will likely transfer you to the CEO's Special Liaison's
- office, where they will take your complaint, FAX the local dealer and service rep,
- and try to expidite repair of your vehicle. I've found that such a FAX tends to
- make the service you get just that much better!!! I never got that by calling
- the normal 800 number. And if that doesn't work, you can complain loudly to
- Mr. Poling's office directly (vs. getting transferred to the Special Liaison's
- office). I'm still in the middle of doing just that (RE: the engine mounts) so
- I can't tell you the outcome of that strategy just yet...
-
- Best of luck... I like the car in many ways, but dealing with Ford over
- these bizarre problems is tricky at best. I hope someone at Ford is listening to
- all this and they clean up their act. The whole reason I'm reading this newsgroup
- today is to check up on Saturns. Given the reports I've seen, it sounds like
- they have a better average quality level than a Ford, and the owner-company
- relationship isn't as advisarial (at least, in theory...).
-
- - Ron
-
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