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- From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
- Newsgroups: rec.antiques
- Subject: Re: Occupied Japan dinnerware
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.075246.46719@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 07:52:46 CST
- Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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- In response to the inquiry about Occupied Japan dinner ware,
- I want to preface the following information by saying that the
- value of Occupied Japan lies in the mark, so you have to check
- to see that EVERY piece of the set is so marked. Pieces which
- ARE so marked can be priced out at about the medium-to-high
- range in the following value guide, thus giving yourself credit
- for the mark. Any pieces which are NOT so marked should to be
- considered in the low-to-medium price range of the value guide.
-
- Now, with that out of the way, here is how I would tackle the
- valuation issue (but know that this is only one person, and that
- others might see things differently). According to Emyl Jenkins'
- _Appraisal Book_, there are three classes of china:
-
- Class I: Pottery, semiporcelain, and ironstone (including that
- available in department stores and some collectible 1930s
- dinnerware patterns such as Harlequin).
- Class II: Simply decorated English bone china, American porcelain,
- by Syracuse, Lenox, Pickard, Noritake, "Queens' Ware," and
- commonly found Haviland patterns. Most usable Japanese
- dinner ware is in the same class as Noritake.
- Class III: Fine English and American porcelain, gold-decorated
- patterns. (It should be noted that the prices for excep-
- tional imported English, French, and Hungarian patterns
- may actually exceed "high" valuations by hundreds of
- dollars.)
-
- Next, Jenkins gives a "rule of thumb" valuation for all the common
- elements found in most dinner ware sets, expressed as a "low value-
- high value" range," as follows:
-
- Jenkins' Class II Valuation Guide
-
- ITEM LOW VALUE HIGH VALUE
-
- Dinner plate $ 10 $ 40
- Salad plate 8 28
- Bread/butter plate 5 20
- Cup 5 30
- Saucer 5 30
- Rimmed soup plate 12 35
- Cereal bowl 7 30
- Fruit/dessert bowl 5 28
- Platters:
- Oval, small 35 135
- Oval, medium 50 175
- Oval, large 75 200
- Round, medium 40 150
- Round, large 50 210
- Vegetable bowls:
- Open, round 30 125
- Open, oval 30 125
- Covered, round 40 150
- Covered, oval 40 150
- Tureens:
- Covered 95 165
- Covered, w/stand 125 210
- Teapot w/covered 50 160
- Coffeepot w/covered 60 185
- Sugar, covered 25 65
- Creamer 20 55
- Gravy boat 40 115
- Gravy boat w/stand 65 145
- Celery, butter, or pickle dish 35 75
-
-
- Now the valuation procedure is this:
- Take all the pieces of china in the set which you have and put them
- out on a big table. You REMOVE from the table any china which show
- damage in any way: chips, cracks, crazing, bad stains, nasty scratches,
- etc., leaving only first-class pieces behind. Now, count how many of
- each type of dish you have (i.e., 7 dinner plates, 8 saucers, 4 cups,
- 6 berry dishes, etc.). Then consult the above guide for the value of
- that piece and multiply the value by the number of the same items to
- get a total for that type of item, and add them all up for a ballpark
- grand total for the set.
-
- As to the pieces you set aside for various reasons, if one takes the
- "hard" view, they have in truth no market value. I have found, how-
- ever, that pieces with only small damage (tiny "chigger bite" chips,
- for example), can become "bargaining stock" in negotiating a sale,
- and can be considered either at the "low" price above, or at some %
- of the price, or can be thrown in to clinch the deal.
-
- I hope that this has been of help in some way.
-
- Nancy
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- * 3043 Learned Hall *
- | University of Kansas "Everything goes wrong all the time - |
- * Lawrence, KS 66045 What you do is fix it." *
- | mouse@ukanvax.cc.ukans.edu - Gus Pagonis |
- * (913) 864-3692 *
- | Disclaimer: My opinions are my own; nobody else is even interested. |
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