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- From: stever@crosstalk.tv.tek.com (Steven E. Rice P.E.)
- Subject: Re: Religion is belief, not behavior (was Re: new initiative)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.022415.17537@tvnews.tv.tek.com>
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- References: <1993Jan22.163904.10387@hpcvca.cv.hp.com> <1993Jan25.063653.5089@tvnews.tv.tek.com> <C1HAry.Iz2@hfglobe.intel.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:24:15 GMT
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- Hmmm, there appears to be a communication problem here somewhere. In
- response to a previous article, I wrote:
-
- >> Scott seems confused about the difference between belief and behavior.
- >> Religion is a belief, although there may be behaviors which stem from
- >> that belief. . . .
-
- George La Belle (labelle@hfglobe.intel.com) apparently has concluded that
- the constitutional protection for all beliefs extends to all behaviors
- as well. In article <C1HAry.Iz2@hfglobe.intel.com>, he wrote:
-
- > Fine, the analogy is correct. If homosexuals "believe" they are
- > attracted to same sex partners, then act upon that belief; how does
- > this differ from Christians who "believe" Jesus is god and act
- > accordingly? Looks the same to me. . . .
-
- The difference is in the actions which result from the respective
- beliefs. In his letter to the Christians at Galatia(*), the Apostle
- Paul reminded his readers that the Roman government had passed no
- laws forbidding the behaviors that result from believing in Christ:
-
- [T]he fruit of the Spirit [i.e., the behavior which results
- from believing in Jesus Christ and following His commandments]
- is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
- gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no
- law.
-
- To the best of my knowledge, neither the United States government nor
- any of its political subdivisions have passed laws against such
- behaviors. Therefore, the behavior of "Christians who 'believe' Jesus
- is god and act accordingly" is in accordance with the law.
-
- On the other hand, at least one state (Georgia) has a law prohibiting
- sodomy (anal intercourse). Note that the Georgia law doesn't impose
- sanctions upon "homosexuals [who] 'believe' they are attracted to same
- sex partners" -- it imposes sanctions upon a specific behavior. The
- United States Supreme Court ruled in 1985 that the Georgia statute
- was constitutional, concluding that there was no indication the
- framers of the Constitution had intended to protect such actions.
-
- The difference is not in the beliefs. The difference is in the
- behaviors which result from the beliefs.
-
- Unfortunately, some extreme cases have come to light recently which
- provide very clear delineation of the difference between belief and
- behavior:
-
- 1. In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Jeffrey Dahmer apparently believed
- in both necrophilia and necrophagia. However, he is not in
- prison for his beliefs. He is in prison for killing and
- eating and/or freezing the flesh of a number of boys and
- young men.
-
- 2. In Medford, Oregon, a man whose name I don't remember is in
- jail. At least at one time, he was a professing Christian
- and a lay leader in his church. But he isn't in jail because
- of his beliefs. He is in jail awaiting trial on charges that
- he sexually abused a number of children with the intent of
- infecting them with AIDS.
-
- In each of the cases cited, the individual is not in jail because
- of his beliefs. He is in jail because his actions violate the law.
-
- > . . . Belief leads to behaviour in
- > both cases and is the basis for "minority" status.
-
- The law doesn't make belief the basis for minority status. The Civil
- Rights laws creating the concept of minorities as protected classes
- weren't enacted until the 1960s, but religious and political beliefs
- have been constitutionally protected since the inception of the
- Republic.
-
- Steve Rice
-
- (*) Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
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