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- From: morgan@engr.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
- Newsgroups: news.groups,soc.culture.usa,alt.censorship,alt.individualism,alt.society.civil-liberty,misc.headlines
- Subject: Re: public appeal to John DiNardo to stop posting to soc.culture.usa
- Message-ID: <C1KM4u.FH8@ms.uky.edu>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 15:38:53 GMT
- References: <1993Jan27.194420.24912@bnlux1.bnl.gov> <1k76jbINN29s@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
- Sender: morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
- Organization: University of Kentucky Engineering Computing Center
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- pecampbe@mtu.edu (Paul Campbell) wrote:
- >Wrong approach. I have mailed root@virginia.edu. Try doing the same. I
- >already tried acs.virginia.edu, but that doesn't seem to exist, so the
- >next higher site is virginia.edu. And if that doesn't work, perhaps when
- >people who are having disk storage problems and bandwidth problems because
- >of this guy petition NSF, the fur would really fly, but for now, just a
- >nice letter to root@virginia.edu is appropriate.
-
- [ Ducking into a nearby communications closet, our hero emerges as his ]
- [ alter ego, "root@engr.uky.edu"! With his "I don't speak for the Uni- ]
- [ sity of Kentucky" disclaimer firmly in place across his rear, System ]
- [ Administrator Man leaps into the fray............ ]
-
- Many of us believe that sites which provide Usenet and similar facilities
- (such as email, BBSs, etc.) deserve acknowledgement as "common carriers";
- as such, they should not be held liable for actions taken by their users.
- A recent court decision (Cubby v. CompuServe, I believe) asserted that
- CompuServe could not be held liable for postings/uploads made by one of
- its users; this is an important step in the right direction (IMHO). If
- you want this sort of protection for your site, it would be rather hypo-
- critical to hold virginia.edu liable for DiNardo's postings.
-
- While we may not particuarly appreciate DiNardo's postings or his posting
- technique (I freely admit that I do not), attempts to prevent him from pos-
- ting are inappropriate. After all, would you like me to drop some email
- to root@mtu.edu complaining about your recommendation to flood systems
- administrators with email? I can guarantee that such a message would generate
- a frosty response toward you; most admins dislike mail floods *severely*.
-
- There are several possible approaches to this situation:
-
- - If your newsreader supports killfiles, use them. My kill file
- takes care of serveral posters whose postings hold no interest
- for me. (rn(1) supports a global killfile, in addition to
- killfiles for individual newsgroups.)
-
- - If you are managing a feed, wipe the articles individually. A
- simple shell script can be used to wipe any messages with
- "From: whoever@whereever" in the header. [NOTE: I wouldn't
- do this if I was feeding other sites; after all, we don't want
- to make decisions for *them*, right?
-
- - You could get *really* inventive and implement kill file func-
- tionality for your newsreader. I once (years ago) wrote a shell
- script that found postings I didn't want and entered their message
- ids in my "articles read" file (the newsreader I was using didn't
- support killfiles). I ran the shell script at 7:00 am each morning,
- and presto! Killfile! No one else's reading was affected, and I
- didn't have to see the hoohah.
-
- Sending email to "root@whatever" is *rarely* the proper answer.
-
- --Wes
-
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