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- From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
- Newsgroups: misc.taxes
- Subject: Re: Social Security for non-citizens
- Message-ID: <C1GxIr.8uK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 15:54:26 GMT
- Article-I.D.: news.C1GxIr.8uK
- References: <9301112025.AA24306@oodis01.hill.af.mil> <C0pn7u.I8y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <2759@cronos.metaphor.com>
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- Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
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- In article <2759@cronos.metaphor.com>, sasha@sharik.metaphor.com (Sasha Velednitsky) writes:
- >In article <C0pn7u.I8y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng) writes:
- >>
- >>In article <9301112025.AA24306@oodis01.hill.af.mil>, rdyreng@oodis01.hill.af.mil (Russell I. Dyreng;OO-ALC/LILEP) writes:
- >>>Non-citizens also have the ability to become citizens at a later point
- >...
- >>SS benefit is supposedly based on how much one has contributed into it
- >>before. (The formula is TOP, TOP, top secret that SS won't tell
- >>anyone.) Also, if one never contributes into SStax, be it citizen or
- >
- >This is not true. The formular is *public* information and could be
- >obtained by contacting your local SS office. ...
-
- I have contacted the local office before. They would not say the formula.
- They told me they could tell me what my benefit would be as of this year
- and if I were eligible for the benefit. If you can get it, please post it
- here. I think many of us would like to know.
-
- > When I was in Italy about
- >13 years ago I met a retired Dutch man. He had been working in USA for
- >about 10 years and as the result of it was collecting US Social Security.
- >As he explained to me, he worked in the USA from the age of 35 to 45.
- >He started collecting SS when he reached 65 however. He never applied
- >for a US Citezenship.
-
- 13 years ago would be 1980. Your Dutch friend would be at least 65
- then. So, he probably worked in the USA from 1950-60 or earlier.
- Things could have been different back then. Currently, SStax and
- benefit is not limited to US citizens. Permenant residents are covered
- too. But non-immigrant residents (e.g. temporary working permits,
- foreign students) are not required or covered. Please remember this
- discussion is talking about should non-immigrant residents be included
- in the SS system.
-
- >I don't have the current formula or length of time one should be
- >working in USA to earn SS benefits when one is 65 years old. I've
- >been working in USA for about 13 years and not retiring yet, so I'll
- >make the minimum. Therefore I don't need the exact information on
- >SS benefits. But it looks like you do. So why don't you get the
- >information from a real source and not from "I heard" and post it
- >here for the benefit of others.
-
- I don't know how you get the impression I claim I "know it all". It
- was my own experience (since mid 70's) that non-immigrant residents
- do not contribute into SS nor can they claim benefit.
-
- >I am sorry if my message is a little bit "personnal", but this is
- >the second time you are posting the information that is simply not
- >true.
-
- I don't see why one has to get personal even if someone made mistakes.
- I have made several mistakes before in this group. And others corrected
- me. That was good. Everyone benefits from it. If no one is allowed
- making unintentional mistakes, it will be a very quiet world.
-