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- From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
- Newsgroups: misc.legal,talk.abortion,talk.politics.misc
- Subject: Re: PINHEAD! Thou art a PINHEAD!
- Message-ID: <14011@optilink.COM>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 18:27:41 GMT
- References: <1993Jan14.222658.4107@wetware.com> <casivils.727128267@node_508ba> <1993Jan19.230529.5454@wdl.loral.com>
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- In article <1993Jan19.230529.5454@wdl.loral.com>, bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt) writes:
- > dpage@ra.csc.ti.com (Doug Page) writes:
- > # Not to mention the fact that the free exercise of religion is specifically
- > # guaranteed in the first amendment whereas the "right to abortion" was arrived
- > # at by a series of extrapolations which first created a "right to privacy" and
- > # then classed abortion under the umbrella of that "right".
- >
- > That's correct. We don't mention that because we don't consider any
- > right to be any less fundamental simply on the grounds that it isn't
- > explicitly referred to in the first ten amendments to the U.S.
- > Constitution.
- >
- > Of course, there are those PINHEADS that think that if it isn't
- > mentioned explicitly in the Bill of Rights, it isn't really a right --
-
- Actually, I don't think Mr. Page said that. His point was that
- free exercise of religion is explicitly protected, while the right
- to abortion is an extrapolation from right to privacy, which is
- in turn, an extrapolation from the Ninth Amendment. Now, that
- doesn't mean that there is no right to abortion -- but anyone that
- insists that this right to abortion exists, should be even more
- easily persuaded that the right to free exercise of religion
- exists. (Liberals, of course, have a very narrow notion of what
- "free exercise of religion" means.)
-
- > but, I assure you, history shows that the authors of the Bill of
- > Rights certainly didn't. These are generally the same PINHEADS that
-
- Oddly enough, abortion wasn't completely free of governmental
- oversight at the time of the drafting of the Bill of Rights. See
- Blackstone's _Commentaries_. Laws against abortion were in existence
- in the 1820s, though abortionists were seldom prosecuted, and even
- more seldom convicted.
-
- > whine about Roe vs. Wade and Griswold vs. Connecticut being classic
- > examples of the Supreme Court `legislating from the bench' yet cheer
- > like wrestling fans when the Supreme Court burns the doctrine of
- > habeas corpus, savages the exclusionary rule, and shits on the fourth,
- > fifth, sixth and eighth amendments so that Justice can wage a stupid
- > war on *illegal* drugs.
- >
- > | J H Woodyatt | sang the words, `goo goo ga choo,' Sunday
-
- This may be a surprise to Mr. Woodyatt, but there are a lot of
- people in the U.S. who would consider "liberal" a vile insult,
- and are horrified by the crimes being committed against the
- Bill of Rights in the name of the War on Drugs.
-
-
- --
- Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
- "When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
- Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
-