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- From: csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
- Newsgroups: misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.president.clinton
- Subject: Re: More of the House Bank "scandal" (was Pardon stuff...)
- Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:13:16 -0500
- Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
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- References: <1993Jan19.223006.12627@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> <1jic1jINN7uk@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jan21.000113.3405@Princeton.EDU>
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- In article <1993Jan21.000113.3405@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
- >In article <1jic1jINN7uk@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
-
- >>The written bank policy limits checks to a "line-of-credit" equal to a
- >>month's salary. Honoring checks beyond that amount was against written
- >>bank policy. So, this hypothetical event is not at all a non sequitor.
-
- >That was written bank policy, but it wasn't bank custom.
-
- Banks with formally written bank policy are not allowed to run on custom.
-
- [...]
-
- >>Not at all. The "line-of-credit" was not yet their salary. It was therefore
- >>still taxpayer money, plain and simple, without caps.
-
- >No, IT WAS OTHER CONGRESSPEOPLE'S MONEY. NOT TAXPAYER'S.
-
- If I have a bank account with a line-of-credit, the money is not mine. I am
- authorized to use it, but it is not mine. Same for the "line-of-credit" in
- the house bank. (_Now_ who's caps lock is stuck?)
-
- [...]
-
- >>Again, it was a perk at taxpayer expense with taxpayer money. This is
- >>call misappropriation of funds. If they are so careless (or dare I say
- >>criminally negligent) in the running of their own 'bank', why does it
- >>surprise us that they cannot seem to spend only what they bring in via
- >>revenues?
-
- >Because they were neither careless nor criminally negligent. It is not
- >careless or criminally negligent to write a check which you know will be
- >covered.
-
- It is, if you get a wink from the bank when you do it!
-
- [...]
-
- >>I am not upset about routine overdraft protection. But those whose overdrafts
- >>amounted to ten of thousands, well beyond their "line-of-credit" is plainly
- >>irresponsible.
-
- >No, voting for an budget which contains agricultural subsidies amounting
- >to tens of BILLIONS which amount to welfare for the obscenely rich is
- >irresponsible.
-
- >Overdrafting in the tens of thousands doesn't even compare.
-
- >Worry about the direct things, and not the side issues.
-
- So you admit that congress spends irresponsibly? (Don't make me cite welfare,
- medicare/medicaid, and social security fraud examples) The house bank was
- symptomatic. And believe me when I tell you that if I were to overdraw my
- bank account in the amount of tens of thousands of dollars with a wink from
- the bank, both I and the bank would be in *big* *big* *big* trouble.
- ----
- "The main flaw of Creation Theory is that it depends too much on conjecture
- and miracles, and the main flaw of Evolution Theory is that it depends too
- much on conjecture and miracles."
- Craig Edward Smith (csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu)
-