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- From: mbb@keps.com (Maureen Busch)
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:12:34 -0600
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- In article <16B6373D2.CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech) writes:
- >In article <9301222019.AA13412@cairo.kodak.com>
- >mbb@keps.com (Maureen Busch) writes:
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- >>For me, it meant I only got to work on the things nobody else wanted,
- >
- >that isn't necessarily the case. I kept my regular work.
-
- It doesn't always happen, but it does happen. And sometimes the
- reward for doing a job no one wanted well is to get another one. It
- gets tedious after a while. We're not doing anyone who
- might be considering the option any favors to claim it never happens. Since
- it does happen, it helps to be aware of it ahead of time so that one can be
- more aware of the signs it is happening and work to change the trend *early*.
-
- >>and I was viewed as not being "dedicated" since I wasn't always there.
- >
- >I put in 'overtime'. I did meet my deadlines. I don't *think* that I
- >was viewed as not being dedicated.
-
- I didn't say I didn't meet my deadlines. I did. I said I was viewed as being
- not dedicated because I wasn't always there. I worked with mostly men, most of
- them had their wives at home full-time to take care of the kids. I got grief
- for being there instead of "home where I belonged", but I also got grief
- because "well, you aren't here when we are, we can't ask you questions when
- we need to." (Never mind that I had made it abundantly clear that I was
- available by phone on days off and would gladly do what I could to help.
- You can't deal with a problem you don't know exists, can you?)
- You can bust your butt, but there are plenty of closed minds out there, and
- they aren't all on the verge of retirement.
-
- >>That time did not count at all towards being promoted to the next level.
- >
- >True. I am 'behind' people (men and women) who are my age, with the same
- >education, and who started at the company about the same time I did. I
- >knew this would happen and it's a choice I made. I didn't mind so much.
- >What I did mind was not getting raises.
-
- Try having it count *against* moving forward. Yes, it would make sense that
- it would take some one working at 50% time to take twice as long to make the
- same level. I expected that and was willing to live with that. It shouldn't
- count as time *out of the workforce*, or worse, but it happens sometimes.
-
- In all fairness, I did work briefly for an enlightened manager (Hi, Gary!) who
- treated the situation with the fairness that you and everyone else seems to
- have encountered. Not all managers are willing to do something different.
- Hell, I never would have been able to convince anyone to let me work part-time
- if I hadn't already been considered a valuable and contributing employee.
- We have a lot of reorganizations here, managers and organization configurations
- change frequently. Not all managers are wonderful. It is hard to make
- something work, no matter how hard you try, if everyone else is beating you
- down.
-
- The point I was trying to make is that you don't have to be one of those
- slothful part-timers with a prima donna attitude to have the situation work
- against you in ways you never anticipated. Without dedication and hard work,
- I wouldn't have survived all the layoffs we've had, so it isn't all bad. The
- problem is that everyone except me seems to have nothing but wonderful things
- to say about working part-time. Sometimes it doesn't work out the way you
- expected, the way you had been led to believe it would work out, the way you've
- worked so hard to have it work out. There is only so much you can do to change
- other people's attitudes. Pretending it never happens isn't going to make
- those kinds of attitudes disappear.
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