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- From: randyn@microsoft.com (Randy Nevin)
- Subject: funds: timing vs. buy&hold
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.210656.15574@microsoft.com>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 21:06:56 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corp.
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- i'd like to start a thread on buy&hold vs. market timing, especially with
- mutual funds.
-
- i wrote a small program to help me analyze mutual fund performance. input is
- friday closing nav's for about the last 4 years, plus income dividend and
- capital gain distributions. it calculates running averages (of a hypothetical
- $10 investment) between 5 and 50 weeks, and looks for buy signals from 1% to
- 5% over the average, and sell signals from 1% to 5% below the average. it
- selects the 'optimal' average size and buy/sell signal levels to maximize the
- final investment value. right now i'm plotting about 20 funds, plus microsoft
- stock (for fun). i assume that when not invested, you can get 3.5% in a money
- market fund.
-
- i've noticed that for some funds it definitely pays to switch in and out
- during specific times, and for others it seems hardly worth the time. for
- example, the prudent speculator leveraged fund. (this is one i specifically
- selected because of its extreme volatility, and because it has won the
- dubious distinction of finishing near the bottom of all mutual funds; i
- wanted some inherently 'bad' funds to measure/contrast 'good' funds against.)
- using buy&hold, your 4-year return would be -3.3%, so you would have lost
- money. following the buy/sell signals, your return would have been +29%, and
- kept you out of the fund about 30% of the time. to be fair, i haven't
- gathered the distribution data for that fund, so those numbers are off, but
- still i expect there is a big difference. ok, let's take the american
- heritage fund -> 12.3% vs. 31.3%, and you're in money market about 40% of the
- time. (these percentages are all annualized)
-
- now with a fund like analytic optioned equity it seems hardly worthwhile to
- worry about market timing. buy&hold gave 7.9% vs. 8.9% for timing. and there
- was only one sell signal for a duration of 3 months during late 1990 (when
- almost all the funds i track had a distinct dip). also, vanguard wellesley
- (12.5% vs. 13.8%) which generated more sell signals (4). some of the other
- funds i track would have you jumping into the money market maybe 10 times
- over the last 4 years just to boost overall yield maybe 2%; i really question
- whether it is worth trying to time such funds. occasionally i get a sell
- signal, and then my next buy signal is significantly higher, so i end up
- losing some ground by sitting in the money market.
-
- now, contrast that to a volatile stock such as microsoft, where timing would
- have given 46.5% vs. 52.87% for buy&hold. so you would have done better to
- buy it and forget about it (for 7 years).
-
- what do people think about this? is there some identifiable trend here? the
- most obvious thing would be that certain categories of mutual funds
- (aggressive growth -> american heritage, prudent speculator, 20th century
- ultra) should be market timed to pick the investment period and avoid the
- sharp downs, and others (income -> wellesley, growth&income?) should be used
- for 401(K)'s, IRAs, college funds and general long-term buy&hold investing.
- yet this doesn't seem to transfer over to a volatile stock (microsoft); does
- the theory not transfer from mutual funds to stocks, or is it an anomaly of
- my (non-representative) examples? has anyone else created a mechanism like
- this; does it seem to work in practice? (i have not tried to use mine in the
- market yet) for my buy/sell signals i'm using a simple percentage above/below
- the running average; should i be using a more complex mechanism? (slope of
- intersecting lines? weighted average? number of weeks above/below a
- threshhold?)
-
- comments? favorite funds?
-
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- Randy Nevin randyn@microsoft.com ..!uunet!microsoft!randyn
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