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- From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
- Subject: Re: Mutual Fund Expenses
- References: <1993Jan26.194013.2478@news.columbia.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:50:31 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.194013.2478@news.columbia.edu>, gs38@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Gopalakrishnan Subramaniam) writes:
- >
- >Mutual fund sales loads and expenses
- >
- >Not every fund charge heavy sales load on investments.
- >
- >Look at my earlier posting on no load mutual funds with excellent returns.
- >if you did not see it, let me know and i shall post it again.
- >
- >Expenses: Usually for a big fund (assets over 1 billion) expenses should be
- >1% or less. For small funds it can be as much as 2.5%. However, when the
- >fund reports its yearly returns it includes the expenses but excludes the
- >sales load. Expenses cover market research, advertisement, admin., etc.
- >
- >Turnover rate: This is another important factor to be considered in mutual
- >fund investing. It measures the amount of trading the fund manager does each
- >year. A turnover rate of 100% is equivalent to selling all the fund's assets
- >and buying an equal amount of assets in the same or different stocks. More
- >trading means the fund manager changes his opinions on the stocks too often
- >OR he is generating commissions for his brokerage. Either way it is bad for
- >the fund holders. Good funds have turnover rates less than 100%. However,
- >adverse market conditions can force higher turnover rates.
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- Is the "amount" measured in dollar value or shares of {stocks,bonds,...}
- or something else? What if the manager thinks IBM is gonna dive but will
- bounce back couple times, so he/she smartedly sells/buys it two
- times this year. By year end, the fund holds the same number of IBM shares.
- Would it be count as "No", "Two" or "four" turnover?
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- What about options buying? Wouldn't that really crank up the turnover
- rate?
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- Any way, this is an informative article. Thanks.
-