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- From: schindler@csa2.lbl.gov
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- Subject: Re: Covered Calls: Less Risk - High Returns.
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:22 PST
- Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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- ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet) writes...
- >
- >While you make an argument for this being an analogy, it's also true
- >that the risks are quite opposite. Covered call writing is probably
- >the lowest risk of the various combinations we could concoct,
- >excepting perhaps several straddle positions. However writing
- >puts and shorting stock in combination presents about the highest
- >of risks.
-
- I disagree. In fact I would argue that selling short without writing the put
- is even riskier. Just as a covered call is less risky than simply being long
- the stock, so a "covering put" is less risky than simply being short the stock.
- The premium from the "covering put" gives you a little downside (=upside for the
- stock price) protection.
-
- >
- >puts are good for folks who think the price won't fall; so is
- >shorting the stock itself. But covered call writing assumes the
- >price won't rise, while purchase of the stock to cover the call
- >predicts the stock will rise. Not quite the same.
- >
- I agree that writing puts is the correct strategy if you are bullish. But
- it is incorrect that selling short is a good strategy if you are bullish.
-
- writing puts, buying calls, buying stock --> bullish strategies
- buying puts, writing calls, shorting stock --> bearish strategies
-
- >Further, while the stock covers the covered call, the shorted stock
- >must be covered by other collateral and also the shorted put must
- >be covered by separate collateral.
-
- Here Art is correct to a T. There is in fact such a thing as a "covered put."
- But a short position in the stock cannot cover the put. A covered put is one
- in which:
- 1) money is deposited in a bank to pay for the stock and you get a
- receipt from them saying so to send to your broker.
- 2) a line of credit representing the strike price is obtained.
- 3) a put in the same equity is purchased.
-
- >Art Kamlet a_s_kamlet@att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
-
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- | Aaron Schindler Schindler@csa.lbl.gov |
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