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- From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
- Subject: Re: Kids and hazards (was Re: No Hot Water!)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.164932.5142@ulysses.att.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:49:32 GMT
- References: <1993Jan22.184259.12555@ulysses.att.com> <a4-sm2b@dixie.com>
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- In article <a4-sm2b@dixie.com>, jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- > If I did have a kid, I'd deal with minimal risk hazards like hot tap
- > water by letting the kid touch it and get a little burn while under
- > supervision. Same way I learned about such stuff. Other than when
- > supervised, he'd be trained to stay away from the bathroom until I
- > judged him capable of handling the risks. About Jr High or so :-)
-
- For the most part, the issue isn't what kids know not to do. Daniel
- knows perfectly well that outlets are dangerous, and doesn't, and won't,
- touch them. But he never realized that wires plugged into those
- outlets are also dangerous, until he picked up some pliers I'd put down
- for a second (I was doing phone wiring), and used them to cut through
- a power cord... Yes, he now knows that wires are dangerous, objects,
- and why. The issue wasn't discipline; it was a desire to experiment
- with tools.
-
- Now -- he wasn't unsupervised; there was another adult present besides
- me. But anyone can let their attention wander for a few seconds -- to
- deal with another kid, for example -- and kids can get into trouble
- remarkably fast.
-
- It's easy to warn kids against known hazards, like outlets and loaded
- guns. The trick is to guard against things you haven't thought of.
- Tell me -- what did your mother do when it was time to cook lunch,
- when you and your brother were both very young? (I'll take some risk
- and assume that she was generally home during the day, and your father
- was not.) Assume, say, age 3.5, when a kid can still cause lots of
- inadvertent trouble, but is too old to be kept in a playpen.
-
- There's currently a thread going on on misc.kids about stuff we all
- pulled when we should have known better. I haven't posted my own
- exploits there yet, though I'll note for the record that they generally
- involved electricity and/or chemistry. The problem wasn't that I
- didn't know anything; the problem was that I didn't know enough,
- and wasn't aware of what I didn't know. So, too, with hot water and
- young kids.
-