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- From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
- Subject: Re: PC Unix/Xenix vendors
- Message-ID: <2B66DBDF.3964@tct.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:00:47 GMT
- References: <1993Jan18.193031.971@compu.com> <ADAMS.93Jan23013219@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> <2B62D876.3982@tct.com> <ADAMS.93Jan25234455@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de>
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- According to adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams):
- >microSPARC by Ti integrates ALL onto ONE dice. Period.
-
- Even the hard disk? Please enumerate what "ALL" means.
-
- >RTFM!
-
- Read The Friendly... what?
-
- >>And common peripheral boards for the ISA bus are
- >>so cheap you can practically give them away.
- >
- >Right. Some vendors give necessary peripheral interfaces away
- >all on a mother board. Why should I pay additionally for SCSI,
- >ISDN, UART ?
-
- Because when you need eight serial ports, Sun will charge an arm and
- a leg, because they're the only ones with an inside track on the
- development of peripherals for their own custom busses. Or are
- third-party serial boards a thriving market in the Land of SPARCs and
- I haven't heard about it?
-
- >>PC UNIX rides that wave of good and cheap hardware,
- >
- >Given price/performance ratio a GSX board by SUN is competitive to
- >video cards of a PC.
-
- But most people don't need the performance. I don't care if a Ferrari
- has good price/performance if I can't afford it.
-
- >> Local bus video [...]
- >
- >One more patch.
-
- Yes; but so what? You'd be surprised how much good engineering looks
- like a kludge if that's what you're expecting to see.
-
- >NO. It is the add-on policy. To set up a competitive workstation
- >for CAD [...]
-
- CAD is always highest-of-high-end. Talk more typical usage, please.
-
- (And you really don't need to write "NO" in all caps...)
-
- >>>Do not forget, that clone makers start to focus on SPARC meanwhile.
- >>
- >>You mean they're beginning to consider diversifying, in addition to
- >>maintaining the continuously profitable PC clone industry.
- >
- >Margins are narrow.
-
- But with the volume involved, narrow margins are still enough.
- Besides, wouldn't _you_ rather buy a computer with a low margin?
- I would. It means more bang for the buck for us buyers.
-
- >>>Window NT is targeted to processors like Mips R3000/R4000 and DEC/alpha.
- >>
- >>And the 486.
- >
- >Window NT developments are done on R3000, as Olivetti provides a
- >special development station for Windows NT at better than usual
- >conditions. All I know about Windows NT on 486: It is said to be
- >unusable slow.
-
- Oh, now _there's_ a good reason to sell Intel stock. NOT!
- There is _no_way_ that Microsoft will pass up the huge market that
- the 486 presents. If NT is too slow, Microsoft will speed it up.
-
- >There was one demonstration of a beta system [...]
-
- Yes, a _beta_ system. As in, _not_ ready for sale... _yet_.
-
- >>>Next versions of OS/2 will be based on a mciro kernel, and IBM sees
- >>>OS/2 just as one step into distributed computing (DCE) and propose
- >>>their PowerRisc therefor.
- >>
- >>OS/2, microkernel or no, will run on the 486 for the forseeable future.
- >
- >OS/2 development is done by IBM, and IBM told the world, that
- >OS/2 is regarded to be an "intermediate step to Distributed Computing
- >Environment (DCE)" (Hope to have cited correctly.)
-
- What, you have the impression that DCE won't work on a 486?
- --
- Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
- "you make me want to break the laws of time and space / you make me
- want to eat pork / you make me want to staple bagels to my face /
- and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
-