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- From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
- Subject: Re: PC Unix/Xenix vendors
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:47:06 GMT
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- karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
-
- >SCO has a serious value problem.
-
- They're not the only ones. NextStep 3.0 looks like a wonderful
- development environment. Price announced for the '486: $995 runtime,
- $2495 for the developers version.
-
- I could understand the $2495 for the developers if Next were going to
- ship the runtime for $99.95 --- the programmers are going to need a lot
- of support and you can use a price as a way of sorting out the serious
- programmers. (Somewhere in a filing cabinet I have a write-up on the
- experiences of a company selling a programmer's tool: their $100 version
- generated 80% of their support calls. So they dropped it and only sold
- their $500 deluxe package.) If you can't pay $2495, you might not have
- the money to finish the package.
-
- But at $995 for the OS, the product has to be of mind-boggling value and
- a very high price. "Here, our WhizBangWriter is only $195 --- but you
- have to pay $995 for the operating system to run it." That'd go over
- real big against Word for Windows. The Next app would have to write the
- letter for you ... of course, you could grab some Shakespeare off the
- disk for a touch of class.
-
- Of course Steve Jobs used to work with Guy Kawasaki, who wrote in his
- book about _The Macintosh Way_ about how he would show the Mac to
- developers, then tell them how Apple was going to charge them for
- documentation, and support, and they'd have to develop on the Lisa since
- the Mac itself didn't have development tools yet. And some people, the
- true believers, would still go for it. But it's 1993, not 1983. It's
- not CP/M or MS-DOS that's the enemy, it's X/Windows, MS Windows, OS/2, and
- the Mac itself.
-
- To come back to SCO: I would bet a large sum of money that most of the
- people running SCO have no idea what operating system they're using.
- They just do their accounting or whatever other vertical market software
- they need. End-users don't buy operating systems, they buy solutions.
- And for that market, the cost of the operating system is usually trivial
- compared to support and custom programming.
-
- (So why won't NextStep do well? Because they didn't get big enough fast
- enough. If Next gets past all the PC competitors, there's SUN with
- Solaris. And SUN's has just a little more muscle than Next ... )
-
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