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- From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.sysv386
- Subject: Re: PC Unix/Xenix vendors
- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:32:19
- Organization: TH-Darmstadt
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- Message-ID: <ADAMS.93Jan23013219@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de>
- References: <1993Jan18.193031.971@compu.com> <C14Kvo.18F@ddsw1.mcs.com>
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- In-reply-to: chip@tct.com's message of Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:20:22 GMT
-
- In article <2B6010B6.14DF3@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
-
- > According to karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger):
- > >I suspect that the Intel Unix systems may be doomed.
-
- > Not a chance. The NT, OS/2, and MS-DOS markets will continue to push
- > the PC clone architecture QUICKLY toward better bang/buck ratios. Sun
- > can't amortize SPARC development costs like the PC clone makers can.
-
- Why? Chip development was done by Cypress, Logitec, TI, NEC or Fujitsu
- [unsure] etc., but outside of SUN. SUN told them just secifications.
- Period.
-
- Indeed SPARC processors do not tend to be more expensive than 486DXs,
- price driven by monopoly of Intel. Have a look at the
- microSPARC by TI, which has a CPU, FPU and all glue logic,
- including DRAM controller and SBUS interface, put on _ONE_ chip.
-
- > PC UNIX rides that wave of good and cheap hardware,
- Current cheap PC hardware does not seem to match current challenge
- very well. Why do you think do Local Bus etc occur concurrently
- to GUIs?
-
- > and there's no
- > reason to think it won't continue to do so.
- At least here in Europe, one can prove, that workstations based
- on PC will be tremedously more expensive than one based on SPARC.
- Please glance through ct12/92, ct1/93, ct2/93 and iX1/93
- all published by Heisse Verlag, Hannover, FRG.
-
- Do not forget, that clone makers start to focus on SPARC meanwhile.
-
- Window NT is targeted to processors like Mips R3000/R4000 and
- DEC/alpha. Next versions of OS/2 will be based on a mciro kernel,
- and IBM sees OS/2 just as one step into distributed computing (DCE)
- and propose their PowerRisc therefor.
-
- All arguments above need not be taken as arguments, though
- they are too many and too strong hints to ignore.
-
- best, adams
-