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- From: fineberg@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
- Subject: Re: i860 performance (was: Re: World's Most Powerful Computing Sites)
- References: <1993Jan21.165159.10149@meiko.com> <1993Jan22.015827.26653@nas.nasa.gov> <C19s04.3yF@pgroup.com>
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- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:58:53 GMT
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- In article <C19s04.3yF@pgroup.com> lfm@pgroup.com (Larry Meadows) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan22.015827.26653@nas.nasa.gov> fineberg@nas.nasa.gov writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan21.165159.10149@meiko.com>, richard@meiko.com (Richard Cownie) writes:
- >>|>
- >Unfortunately, the iPSC/860 board actually takes 3 cycles for a write, so
- >the count for the loop is really 7 cycles, or around 11.4 mflops
- >
- >The i860-XP should be somewhat better, since it can theoretically
- >issue a 128-bit load every other clock. Of course, everything needs to
- >be properly aligned, and the multiply is still 2 clocks. So around 4-5
- >clocks for a daxpy element is more likely.
- >
- >The problem is that peak mflops performance doesn't give the whole story --
- >memory bandwidth is much more important. Perhaps machines should be
- >rated by how long it takes to do a vector add, or some such measure; then
- >"super-vector" performance occurs when values can be left in vector registers.
- >--
- >Larry Meadows The Portland Group
- >lfm@pgroup.com
- Actually, if there are any vendors out there, this is where peak performance
- numbers can hurt sales. Intel misled people so much with the iPSC/860's
- peak performance, that it made the Paragon look bad (i.e., it only gets 20%
- better peak performance). For the reason's you just ponted out, I expect
- the Paragon to do >>20% better than the iPSC/860. Almost all of our codes
- on the iPSC/860 are memory bound. However, Intel can't advertise a >20%
- improvement in peak performancebecause they misled us before. Of course we
- won't really know how much better the Paragon's nodes are because they have
- to contend with the extra overhead from OSF/1.
-
- Sam
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