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- From: kane@cs.purdue.edu (Christopher Kane)
- Subject: Re: Drive drive
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- Organization: Purdue University
- References: <1993Jan25.121021.1787@macc.wisc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:56:25 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.121021.1787@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
- Anderson) writes:
- > In article <SCOTT.93Jan24203511@nic.gac.edu>
- > scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
- > >In my experience, zip (or gzip) would reduce the disk needs
- > >by up to %40, which is a pretty substantial improvement. Furthermore,
- > >compression is free and works even if new disk space is purchased,
- > >so investment in a reasonable compression scheme is going to keep
- > >paying back in the future.
- >
- > Unquestionably better compression technologies are a wise
- > investment. They pay back not only for the servers, but for
- > the user community as well, because most of us are anything
- > but swimming in extra disk space.
- >
- > There are significant labor costs in this dimension too.
- > F'rinstance, were I to update my MS-DOS archive, which is
- > stored on 800 floppy disks, from ARC to ZIP, I'd be looking
- > at the time it takes to do this on a 12 MHz AT clone,
- > feeding the disks one at a time. [...]
-
- Another benefit of compression, not mentioned yet, is that it
- could reap benefits _immediately_. Even if the schools can accept
- the gift of disk space, it may take quite a while for whatever
- process needs to be gone through to complete, plus additional time
- to install/setup the new drive.
-
- Also, Jess's example, while I can sympathize with it, having once
- converted a mere 50 full floppies to a new compression scheme, is
- perhaps somewhat misleading. Floppies need constant attention to
- feed them, as he notes, but the hard drive does not. A script
- could easily be set up to travel through the archive, replacing
- compressed files with their gzip'd counterparts.
-
- An informal test that I ran earlier today indicates that a wholesale
- conversion of the archives from compress to gzip may immediately
- generate 80-110 MB of free space on the disk, taking perhaps one
- CPU-day (a questionable unit of work, I admit). Some of the data:
- sonata.cc> du 1.0-release ; no compression
- 26488 1.0-release/source
- 30004 1.0-release/binaries
- 4835 1.0-release/demos
- 61330 1.0-release
- sonata.cc> du 1.0-release ; compress (current)
- 9366 1.0-release/source
- 16388 1.0-release/binaries
- 2580 1.0-release/demos
- 28337 1.0-release
- sonata.cc> du 1.0-release ; gzip -9
- 6373 1.0-release/source
- 12069 1.0-release/binaries
- 1978 1.0-release/demos
- 20423 1.0-release
- [I chose the 1.0-release directory as a representative sample of
- source and binary files. Obviously, some other types of files, tiffs
- for instance, will compress more or less than any "average" implied
- here.]
-
- Of course, actually getting someone to do this will probably being
- like getting someone to pull their own tooth...
-
- I don't mean to say that people should stop sending pledges to Jess. As
- noted before, simple re-compression is a solution with a finite lifetime.
-
- Christopher Kane
- kane@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
-