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- From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Apple's system utilities (was Re: Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?)
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:47:03 -0600
- Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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- Ralph.Martin@cm.cf.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) writes:
- |
- || Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?
- |
- > No.
- |
- || I checked the Frog using Disk First Aid 7.1. It found "invalid sibling"
- || I ran Disk First Aid ~10 times; [only sometimes did] it find a variety of
- || different problems (which I didn't allow it to fix).
- || Norton Utilities finds nothing wrong with the drive and it works just fine.
- |
- > I have had *exactly* the same symptoms with a Rodime disk with Rodime's
- > own Cobra driver. Run DFA on it and it would give an error, and even
- > without quitting DFA, run it again on the same disk and it would say it
- > was OK. Norton finds nothing wrong. This has been going on for me since
- > System 7.0 (perhaps even longer), and its not new to 7.1. In the end I
- > have just learnt to ignore it. The disk itself seems OK.
-
- let's face it, Apple never made a credible effort (if any at all) to
- provide the customer with system maintenance and support utilities that
- "could make a software designer proud" - and SHAME ON THEM for that!
-
- Most support utilities we have seen released by Apple, quite likely,
- were efforts by well-meaning individual engineers (working on it more
- or less on their own time) which were recognized to perform a useful
- function; too useful to not pass on to others, but never polished
- and maintained to conform with the software standards (interface and
- user-friendliness) that Apple claims to be setting in the industry
- (and calls for in the software of their certified developers) and
- which, I think, we have a (customer) right to expect!
-
- That said (and one should probably encourage everyone to let Apple
- hear about such sentiments - and repeatedly and via a variety of
- different channels... so that they don't go wrong when they continue
- on their planned path to replace Microsoft as the premier OS software
- company ;-) it seems possible that the problem might just as well be
- with the driver software of those disks not behaving in conformance
- with some assumed "standard" expected by DFA (something never published,
- maybe? or something completely silly - just as much a possibility),
- something which NU either is unaware of (or not checking for?)....
-
- Be it as it may, a lot of poor driver software has been developed,
- DFA and NU have had their share of problems, and problems in SCSI
- cables, connectors, soft and firmware are also frequent cause of grey
- hair and nervous breakdowns... to single out DFA as "particularly
- untrustworthy" seems, to me, uncalled for. I basically trust it over
- Norton Utilities, for example - though I often wonder why their
- features and capabilities are not better documented, in a manner
- that would allow a person so inclined to study and evaluate and
- compare what it is exactly that they are doing on the users behalf.
-
- well, you got me started on one of my favorite <grumbles> ...
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