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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 26 Jan 93       Volume 11 : Issue 20

Today's Topics:

      [*] rose startupscreen
      [*] seirpenskis-gasket.hqx
      [*] TidBITS#160/25-Jan-93
      (A) Ethernet number of Quadra
      3270 Card Needs Drivers--Please Help
      >cyberspace ?!
      Accelerator/MacRecorder Problem
      Access PC on a Plus
      AppleSingle - AppleDouble Formats
      Cheap database program?
      CMS 80 Meg External Hard Drive
      Connectix address
      Courier font
      Cyberspace (C)
      Cyberspace and Language
      danger of program linking
      Duo 230 & SCSI port.
      Ethernet number of Quadra (R)
      Fax/voice modems (Q)
      Font
      FTP novice problem...(cool
      Gatekeeper
      Gatekeeper (Again!)
      Gate Keeper (sic) flame (R)
      Gatekeeper and Autodoubler Coexist just fine.
      Gatekeeper wars
      Greyscale on Inkjet Printers (C)
      Hypercard assistance needed...
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #18
      Japanes/English Dictionary
      jpeg help
      Laser printers in a lab, HELP!
      Locating Ethernet numbers on a Macintosh
      Looking closer at the power-lock posting -- I screwed up
      Mac to Mac E-Mail Programs (R)
      Mathimatica [12 x 12]^(-1)
      Memory on the Quadra 700: Oops!
      Multiple Alarm Clock sought
      Personal LaserWriter NT question
      Powerlock 3.1 (C)
      PowerLock Problem (A)
      PowerOrgasm vs JMP
      RE-  Ethernet number of Qua
      Recording sounds (speech, actually)
      S-l-o-w IIx and slowing!
      save-o-matic, anyone?(Q)
      saveomatic
      Several miscellaneous System 7.x questions
      SID II (Q), Recover HD space (Q), Mac-X (Q)
      Space Shuttle Takeoff - QuickTime movie
      SuperClock 4.0.1
      Systech (alias Novy) accelerator boards for the SE
      System 7 Monaco TrueType doesn't print correctly
      System Enablers (new in MacWeek 1/25/93)
      TEX Converters
      The IIsi is no more????
      Using CE Fonts & Reading Disks on a Plus
      Using mcvert [Q]
      Utility for getting a list of file sharing servers and users

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:41:31 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] rose startupscreen

This is a 640x480 colour startupscreens of a bee on some red roses. If
you have trouble getting this startupscreen to work please read the report
/info-mac/report/startup-deskpict-faq.txt before emailing me. On the other
hand, feel free to email me if you like this screen.

Cheers

Paul.

[Archived as /info-mac/art/rose-startup.hqx; 189K]

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:03:28 -0700
From: [e-mail] (THE MIDGRAD)
Subject: [*] seirpenskis-gasket.hqx

Sumex-aim,
Here is a after dark module I wrote that I wish to share with
everyone.

This afterdark screen saver module creates the Seirpenski's
Triangle/Gasket fractal on the screen.  It randomly picks points
for the vertices of the triangle and renew's the screen after
plotting 24,000 points.  It should work with color Macs as
well as with monochrome ones.

Thank You,
David L. Thompson

email -- [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/ad/seirpenskis-gasket.hqx; 13K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:31:01 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#160/25-Jan-93

TidBITS#160/25-Jan-93

 This week brings news of a new, object-oriented database from
   Mainstay, Connectix's better implementation of virtual memory,
   and responses to our booth bimbo and pornography articles. In
   honor of the issue number we have a PowerBook 160 tip, Chris
   Johnson releases Gatekeeper 1.2.7, and Craig O'Donnell passes
   on some cacophonous notes on Macintosh sound. Internet users:
   check out the searchable TidBITS archive available on the WAIS!

Topics:
    MailBITS/25-Jan-93
    Word 5.x Not 32-bit Clean
    Sounding Off
    Gatekeeper 1.2.7
    PowerBook 160 Tip
    When Memory Isn't Enough, Try WAIS
    Virtual 3.0
    Species, Genus, Phyla
    Booth Bimbos
    That Pornography Thing
    Reviews/25-Jan-93

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-160.etx; 29K]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:22:34 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Johan Swahn)
Subject: (A) Ethernet number of Quadra

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #19 I asked how I could find out the ethernet number
of a Quadra 700. Thanks for the suggestions. If anyone else needs this
information try:

1) Open the MacTCP control panel and hold down the option key while
selecting the Ethernet icon.

2) Use the free application "Get My Address". I have not found it at Sumex.
It can be found at archive.umich.edu under /mac/util/network.

Johan Swahn ([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:28 CST
From: "J Cusick"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: 3270 Card Needs Drivers--Please Help

I have an unidentified (and currently unusable) card in our IIcx
here.  It is a 3270 Emulation card (I think).  It has a BNC connector
and a 15 PIn male "D" port on the Back.  It has two Chips labeled
341-0666 and 341-0667 (a bios of some sort?).  An apple part Number
on the card is 820-0179-A.  There is also a Barcode Z9000106 on an
orange sticker.  Any help on identifying this card would be greatly
appreciated.  Can I get drivers for it?  We are stuck using an IBM
3090 quite a bit and It would help to get the Mac connected to the SNA
Network.
.
.
Also, I need to know more about our video card.  It has Apple Part
Number B20-0185-08 and a Barcode Number (orange sticker again)
BC9051607.  Thanks for any Info.  Is there a place I can go to find
this info in the future?
jim                                       [e-mail]
Loyola University Chicago   or            [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 9:20:48 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: >cyberspace ?!

      >cyberspace ?!
Paul Baim writes:

>The prefix "cyber" is one of those cool sounding but often
>misused technospeak tidbits.  Surely we can come up with a more accurate
>piece of jargon to refer to "network space"
>
>So, any nominations?

In a book I wrote several years ago that was never published because of the
demise of the publisher and my (temporary) transfer to administrative
duties, I use the term "metalibrary" to refer too the entire knowledge of a
civilization, together with the means of connecting to that knowledge.  I
use "The Metalibrary" (cf "The Internet") to refer to an all-media,
super-hypertext compendium of modern knowledge together with an immediate,
personal and portable access to the entire collection.
  Initially, a small MT (Metalibrary Terminal) might be voice activated with
a subvocal throat mike and have a screen in the corner of eyeglasses, but
some kind of direct neurological link may eventually be possible.  Larger
MTs could be wall hangings displaying famous masters (for a fee to the
museum) or orchestras (pay the symphony, or the individual players who have
been synthesized into a whole) and medium sized ones lap size for convenient
reading of journals, personalized newspapers, National Geographic (suitable
resolution needed), books, TV, etc for a fee to the author/producer.
(Editors do their work on line, and one's world view daemon subscribes one
to a publication either automatically or by manual intervention.)  The
facility ought to be capable of synthesizing any desired newsreader
(Cronkite, Monroe, Caesar...) delivering whatever subset of the news one's
personalized world view filter daemon arranges.
  There is much more, but this should summarize some of my ideas about where
we are heading.  If we need a term separate from "The Metalibrary" to
describe the communications and connections that provide the infrastructure
(as opposed to the whole thing,) it ought to convey the notion that the
thing described transcends the sum of its parts. While "cyberspace" has the
right ring to it, I agree that it is a little off.  Perhaps "Metanet,"
"Metaspace" or a variation thereof would do.
Rick


 Rick Sutcliffe-Trinity Western University Langley B.C. [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:02:27 PST
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Accelerator/MacRecorder Problem

A couple of weeks ago I reported a problem with my LogiCache accelerator:

>The problem is that if I try to use my MacRecorder sound digitizer through
the
>sound manager (either with SoundEdit Pro or QuickTime) and have the cache
>enabled, my machine slows to a crawl.

Also, any sounds recorded in this state (using the MacRecorder Driver 1.02
from
Macromedia) get distorted. Several other users have reported to me that they
have the same problem.

Turns out that, despite Daystar's assurance to the contrary, the DayStar
PowerCache also has the same problem. They are looking into it as we speak. I
have been very pleased with the amount of attention Daystar is paying to the
problem and will report to the net any fixes they come up with. I just didn't
want to leave people with the impression that only Logica had the problem.

--Dave

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:19:26 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Access PC on a Plus

[e-mail] asked:

>I AM TRYING TO USE ACCESS PC AND PC EXCHANGE ON MY MACPLUS BUT WITHOUT
>LUCK.  I HAVE FOUR MG RAM.  IS THIS MY PROBLEM.  MY FRIEND  HAS AN LCII
>ON WHICH BOTH PROGRAMS WORK.  MY MAC CANNOT READ IBM-FORMATTED DISCS NOW
>SO I HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN TO SEE IF THE PROGRAMS THEMSELVES WORK.  COULD
>THEY BE INSTALLED WRONG?  IF SO, WHY DOES THE ACCESS PC ICON APPEAR ON
>MY SCREEN AT STARTUP?  HELP...!

1) You'll have no possibility on a Mac Plus to access DOS disks unless you
add special hardware. The only working hardware I know of is Kennect's
Rapport and Drive 2.4; I am however not sure wether Kennect is still in
business. Cost of the equipment was (some time ago) over US$ 500; you'd
get a used classic for that price now I think (or even a new one?).

2) Do you have a CAPS-LOCK key on your keyboard? If so, please release it
when writing messages / email. It's not fun to read caps-only text.

Best regards, Christian                  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:50:50 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: AppleSingle - AppleDouble Formats

Hi Folks,
      A few weeks ago I asked about Unix utilities to convert MacBinary
to AppleSingle or AppleDouble Formats.
Some people suggested that I use fetch to store my files on the unix side
using AppleSingle format. However, I wanted a unix side utility to do this,
so as not to tie up my mac for any amount of time.
It seems that Wuarchive maintains a local representation of their macintosh
archives in appledouble format, and I was wondering if they use a specific
UNIX utility to convert their files?

Any Information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Terence Mac Goff,
Department of Forestry, University College Dubline, Ireland.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:28:34 EST
From: Dave Elbon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cheap database program?

Can anyone recommend a cheap commercial or shareware database program?

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Date: 26 Jan 93 07:15:00 PDT
From: "ROSE, JIM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: CMS 80 Meg External Hard Drive

I have an external CMS 80 Meg Hard Drive that is rapidly grinding the
bearings into dust.  I opened up the case (it has been out of warranty for
a very long time) and found that the hard drive is actually made by
Quantum [Quantum Q280].  Is it possible to replace this worn out hard
drive with a new hard drive, like the ones I see listed in the back of
Macintosh magazines in the classified section.  Since the power supply
was replaced just over a year ago, I am hoping that all I have to get
is an internal hard drive and replace it.

James Rose
UCLA Physics Dept
Los Angeles, CA
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:18:22 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Connectix address

[e-mail] (John Walker) asked
>Does anybody have a current number or mail address for Connectix?

Hi John,

The address I have (approx half year old) is:
2655 Campus Drive
San Mateo, CA 94403-2520
1-800-950-5880 or [phone] phone
[phone] Fax
AppleLink: Connectix
AOL: Connectix
CompuServe: MACAVEN (forum)

Hope this helps. Regards, Christian.           [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:07 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Courier font

Can anyone recommend an alternative to the Apple-supplied Courier font?  The
one that comes with the system disks seems hard to read, like it's kind of
"skinny."  So, are there any other courier-like, nonproportionally spaced
fonts
available for downloading?  Thanks for the help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:24:52 GMT
From: Mike Reddy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cyberspace (C)

Paul Baim writes in Info-mac #019 to protest about 'the growing use of the
term
"cyberspace" for the virtual space created by large networks.' His argument
being that "cyber" implies control rather than communication. How about
'Control
of communication'?

In fact, it doesn't really matter what the origins of a word are :-(, only
what
it means to the people using it. William Gibson, who coined it in the first
place, used "cyberspace" to describe a place where computer concepts were
given electronic flesh and bones and a truly visual interface.

Paul, your admonishment to 'keep our language accurate' with the threat of
'what
are the media going to do?' [to language?] is unrealistic. As 'cyberspace, at
least Gibson's view of it, is not available yet, the word can only serve in a
jargonistic fashion anyway. Truth to tell, the most annoying terms seem to
stick; How many people say "Hoover" instead of vaccuum cleaner?

Yours Mike

[e-mail] OR [e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:23:18 +0000 (U)
From: George Tempel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cyberspace and Language

              Cyberspace and Language
In IM#019...

>>From: [e-mail]

>>>...The megalopolises of cyberspace differ from their ordinary counterparts
in
>>>many ways...
>>in an article he wrote about the time and space in the context of networks
>>such as the internet.
>
>I must protest the growing use of the term "cyberspace" for the virtual
>space created by large networks.  My dictionary defines "cybernation" as
>"the automatic control of a process or operation (as in manufacturing) by
>means of a computer" and "cybernetics" as " the science of communication
>and control theory that is concerned esp. with the comparative study of
>automatic control systems (as the nervous system and brain and
>mechanical-electrical communication systems)".  So, "cyberspace" would be
>all about control and NOT communication.  The opposite (I hope) of what we
>have in mind.  The prefix "cyber" is one of those cool sounding but often
>misused technospeak tidbits.  Surely we can come up with a more accurate
>piece of jargon to refer to "network space" without co-opting (and
>corrupting) another perfectly useful term.  If WE can't keep our language
>accurate, what are the media going to do?
>
>So, any nominations?
>
>Paul Baim


Relax Paul :^)

Language is a living entity that grows, ages, and yes, sometimes even dies.
One
might be quick to point out the belief that Latin violates these tenents, but
Latin has entered the realm of static grammars because it is no longer
colloquially used. Anyone can cart out a dictionary and state "THIS is the
true
meaning," but we have left structuralism behind us many decades ago in favor
of
PostStructuralism (Michel Foucault anyone?). Language is a concept, and there
is nothing within a language that intrinsically indicates that a chair is
indeed a "chair." Meanings are changed, adapted, and even created (xerox,
kleenex, to email, etc) as required as the language, or any language,
develops.
This applies event to computer languages, which are generally more tersely
defined than spoken languages consisting of grammars and exceptions.

I'm not flaming you, just hoping to shed a little more light on the subject.

george tempel
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:14:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: danger of program linking

You don't want anyone mysterious to link to MPW Shell/Tool Server,
since these are scriptable and a hostile linkter could do things like
send a remote command to delete all the files on your disk.

(Hey, don't get any ideas!)

Alex Lewin
[e-mail]
one-time Mac developer

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:55 CST
From: [e-mail] (Greg Trimper)
Subject: Duo 230 & SCSI port.

"J. Rossi" <[e-mail]> writes:

> I noticed that the floppy port looks exactly the same as the scsi port on
> the  mini dock. When I asked my local dealer if it was possible, I had
> the bizarre  answer 'yes, but only on a mac with an external hard drive'.
> Why ? And is it  true ? (I don't want to 1- buy the HD30 for nothing 2-
> have to re-install  everything if it doesn't work).

Well, while the floppy and scsi ports LOOK the same, one has 30 pins,
while the other has 20.  The Floppy port could NOT be used for
SCSI disk mode.

What 'yes, but only on a mac with an external hard drive' means,
I have no clue.  Sounds like the dealer has no clue, either.

Greg Trimper

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Date: 26 Jan 93 09:30:00 EST
From: "GINBOX::"Scott_Weininger-2151_EMail""
<"Scott_Weininger-2151_EMail"[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet number of Quadra (R)

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:    Tue, Jan 26, 1993 @ 9:23:51 AM
Re:      Ethernet number of Quadra (R)
>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:58:10 +0100
>From: [e-mail] (Johan Swahn)
>Subject: Ethernet number of Quadra
>
>As far as I can see it, Apple does not in its documentation provide the
>ethernet numbers (e.g. X:X:X:X:X:X) of the built-in ethernet "cards" on,
>for example, the Quadra 700 or the Laserwriter IIg. (I may be wrong, but I
>have not found them.) We, or rather our network administrator, need these.
>
>The ethernet number of our LaserWriter IIg could be found by using the
>command "Configure Communication" using Apple's program LaserWriter
>Utility, which displays the number.
>
>Can someone tell me how can I find out the ethernet number our Quadra 700?
>Any software tips? (I was hoping for MacEnvy until I realized it is too
>old.) If I open the casing, can I find the number on the Ethernet "card"?
>
>Any suggestions can be made directly to me. I will summarize.
>
>
>Johan Swahn ([e-mail])
>
>P.S. The command "arp -a" after telneting to a UNIX box unfortunately gives
>the ethernet number of our zone's Gatorbox, not the Quadra's.

There is a freeware program form Cayman Systems the makers of the Gatorbox
Called:  "Node Informer v1.1" is should be on your Gator disk if not FTP to
ftp.cayman.com, login as "anonymous", password "guest" and find it in
/pub/Net_Tools/Node_Informer_1.1.sea.hqx.  The program provides the following
data Node Name, Zone Name, Node Number, Network Number, Subnet Mask, IP
Address
and Ethernet Address.  This information can be printed and/or appended to a
text file so info on all your macs can be gathered into one file.  This info
came form sales support at Cayman.  For further info they can be reached at
[e-mail].

Scott Weininger ([e-mail])
 -----------------------------

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:07 EDT
From: Jerome Breslin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fax/voice modems (Q)

Hi,

A few questions on fax/voice modems:

(1) does anyone know whether the Suprafax modem (14.4) can automatically
distinguish between incoming fax and data signals?

(2) does the Suprafax modem support voice mail features?

(3) does anyone have any comments on the Prometheus Ultima Home Office
fax/voice modem?

(4) which product is the best for fax and Appletalk Remote Access: Global,
Supra, or Prometheus? (hardware and software perspective)

I'd appreciate any comment...

Thanks,
         Jerome

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:04 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Font

I need some suggestions on a good font.  We had been using Geneva 10, which
really looked good on screen.  But then we started having trouble with
printing--bold underline would often run off the edge of the paper.  So we
switched to Times 12, which looks good on paper with no problems, but it is
awful to have to read a lot of it on the screen (too small).  What would you
suggest?  Thanks for the help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:35:35 -0500
From: "Ron Beloin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FTP novice problem...(cool

               Subject:                               Time:10:17 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          FTP novice problem...(cool A)          Date:1/26/93
[   [e-mail]
 tried to connect to ftp.apple.com     ]

>421- We have failed to find a hostname for your IP address [161.45.64.1]
>421- in the Domain Name System. This is probably because your nameserver
[etc., etc.]
>I have no idea what this means, other than that something is wrong and I
can't
>get on at apple.com.  Can someone translate this into plain English for a
>guy who never took computer science?

This question shows up from time to time. Apple's ftp site tried to do a
lookup
on your computer and failed to find anything. Is this your personal mac that
you're ftp'ing from? If so, it's not registered with any nameservers.
There is a neat way around this problem, using TurboGopher (on info-mac
archive)
Start up TG.
Double click on "internet file server (ftp) sites"
Double click on "query a specific ftp site"
Ignore what the dialog says to enter, and enter "ftp.apple.com"
TG will make a link for you. Double click on the link and you're there!
Save the link as a bookmark.

Ron Beloin, Boyce Thompson Inst., Ithaca NY
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:34:03 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gatekeeper


[e-mail] writes:
>Gate Keeper is for people whom have a year to add every possible appication
>you can think of that is not a trojen horse, or a virus.

Huh?  What was the last version of Gatekeeper that you looked at?  The current
version (1.2.7) comes pre-configured with priviledges for over 170 programs,
>From the common to the obsolete.  It has done so for several versions.

>BUT Gate Keeper is about the worst program
>you could use for virus protection.  Why don't you use Disinfectant
>or something else.
>Get disinfectant it is better, has a INIT, and it works.

What an interesting attitude, especially considering that the author of
Disinfectant has stated repeatedly that Disinfectant provides a SUBSET of the
protection of Gatekeeper, and that if you're currently using both Gatekeeper
and the Disinfectant INIT, you shouldn't.  His advice: remove the
Disinfectant INIT, and just use Gatekeeper.  (I might have saved a copy of
his original post if anyone cares).

Disclaimer:  I am a beta tester for Gatekeeper.

                jonathan brecher
                [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93  10:30 GMT
From: Big Nose <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper (Again!)

Like many others, I am a very satisfied Gatekeeper user, who has become a
little upset over the past week at the intensity of a couple of 'attacks'
on Chris Johnson and Gatekeeper. As such, I'd be most interested to hear
just exactly why Ed Jacobs thinks Gatekeeper is the worst virus detection
software in the world?

IMHO anyone who provides such useful software at NO cost deserves a medal. So
come on Ed, explain yourself.

Andy Law
(LAWA @ IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK                            Big Nose in Edinburgh)

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:07:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gate Keeper (sic) flame (R)

In IM #19, [e-mail] said:

>Gate Keeper is for people whom have a year to add every possible appication
>you can think of that is not a trojen horse, or a virus.

Not true at all.  There is a very complete list of known exceptions within
Gatekeeper.  I have over a hundred applications, cdevs, and extensions on my
hard disk, and only two of them conflicted with Gatekeeper.  So I granted
those two apps the proper privileges, an operation that took all of 3 minutes,
and I've never had a problem since.

>Why don't you use Disinfectant or something else.

I *DO* use Disinfectant.  Disinfectant can only detect known viruses and
trojan horses.  To my knowledge, only Gatekeeper and SAM Intercept can catch
new viruses and trojan horses.  The combination of Disinfectant and Gatekeeper
serve to provide complete (if somewhat paranoid) virus protection.

> lets put it this way....  If there were only two programs
(many flames deleted)

I think that Chris Johnson and John Norstad deserve praise for providing
Gatekeeper and Disinfectant free of charge to the Mac community.  If you don't
like the programs, don't use them.  If you think you can do better yourself,
go
for it.  It seems to me mean-spirited and counterproductive to flame at
someone
who is providing a very useful program for free.  Programming takes a lot of
time and effort.  Let's reward that effort with praise and constructive
criticism, not flames.

This is all IMHO...

Darin Takemoto
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:00:40 CST
From: Andrew McAllister <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper and Autodoubler Coexist just fine.

I don't know what everyone seems to be complainig about. I use Gatekeeper
and Autodoubler together all of the time. Sure the Autodoubler manual
says they won't work together, but when was the last time anyone read
(and believed) a manual. I was running GK1.26 and Autodoubler 1.07; I
noticed no problems, no reduction in disk access speed, nothing.

Couple days ago, I upgraded my copy of autodoubler to 2.0 and immediately
disk access speed went to near zero. So I quit using 2.0 and switched back
to 1.07. So what.

My advice: if you are having a problem, pick one of the two inits and
use it exclusively. We all have to make a few choices in life; this
is one of the easiest. Quit flaming on Chris. He was at the forefront
of virus protection long before many of you even knew viruses existed.
And he has taken more personal initiative to resolve, support and upgrade
his free software package than many commercial programmers.

My advice to the Autodoubler folks: call Chris on the phone, fly him up
to your programming center, make him sign a Non-disclosure form, and
incorporate Gatekeeper into Autodoubler (or at least resolve the problems
between the two). Doing so couldn't possibly cost as much as one corporate
power lunch.

Above all, get with the program! We are all here to help each other,
not to just simply bitch and moan. If you all are smart enough to
use this wonderful internet, then you ought to be smart enough to
resolve a simple init conflict.

Send all comments (and flames if you feel the need) to:
Andrew McAllister, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:20:08 +0000
From: Graham Allsopp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper wars

I just thought I would add my 1.25 pence worth (that's around $0.02) to the
current Gatekeeper debate. Working in a University you expect viruses to
fly around, and we have been using both Gatekeeper and Disinfectant for
around four years. We have been hit around half-a-dozen times - Gatekeeper
has caught all these and dealt with them immediately. (Curiously, bureaux
seem to be the worst culprits). To be honest, I can't remember the last
time I scanned my disk with Disinfectant.

I entirely agree with Pat Pullman's posting yesterday, it's up to you to
decide if the trade-off between being notified of suspicious, but innocent
activity is higher than your realistic chances of being hit by a virus.

However Ed Jacobs comes over as a little too aggressive when he says:

>BUT Gate Keeper is about the worst program you could use for virus
protection. >Why don't you use Disinfectant or something else.

Ed, if you care to read the "Help.."  in Disinfectant, you will find that
John Norstad says:

"There are several other excellent free and shareware virus-fighting
tools...
Gatekeeper and Gatekeeper Aid. Chris Johnson. General virus protection.
Free. Gatekeeper: monitors and blocks suspicious activity characteristic of
viruses. Gatekeeper is widely used and very popular. Chris provides
excellent support and he continues to improve it. Unlike the Disinfectant
INIT, Gatekeeper can sometimes (although not always) detect new viruses.
Several viruses were first discovered by Gatekeeper users. HIGHLY
RECOMMENDED."

and further on he recommends:
"An alternative to the Disinfectant INIT is Chris Johnson's excellent
Gatekeeper protection INIT. Gatekeeper is a "general purpose suspicious
activity monitor." Unlike the Disinfectant INIT, Gatekeeper checks not only
for the known viruses, but also for suspicious activity characteristic of
viruses in general. Thus it can often provide protection against even
unknown viruses. Gatekeeper requires some configuration and it will
sometimes ask you to make complicated decisions. It is much more powerful
than the Disinfectant INIT, but it is also larger, more complicated, more
obtrusive, and harder to use than the Disinfectant INIT. It is important
that you understand this difference between the Disinfectant INIT and
Gatekeeper. There is an unavoidable tradeoff between simplicity and power.
Each individual must decide which kind of protection is best for his or her
particular situation."

Personally, I go for belt-and-braces protection and use both and find both
products indispensable. I think that both Chris and John deserve the Mac
equivalent of a Special Oscar for all their hard work and dedication to the
Mac community in general (remember, these guys are doing this FOR FREE!).
Lets show a little more appreciation for their work. If you don't like
their work, don't use it.

Graham

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:59:16 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Greyscale on Inkjet Printers (C)

Furthering the recent discussion about SWII drivers on SWI printers--
I downloaded a really nifty little utility the other day. It's called
Hewlett Packard Deskwriter Greyscale Correction Resource, written by
Ray DiBugnara.  It's freeware and does what the name implies, i.e.
allows the DW (plain ol' bottom of the line, not the DW-C or whatever)
to print greyscales.  According to Mr. DiBugnara's documentation, the
improvement will vary according to the application being used but is
near 100% for Canvas, the art package I use most frequently. The utility
is really a ResEdit hack (am I using the term correctly ;)) for the DW
driver that translates the 72-dpi pattern to a 300-dpi one.  It's very
easy to use and results in dramatically improved graphics printing.
I don't know if this qualified as 'true' greyscale or not but it sure
looks a heck of a lot better than what I was getting before.

Wouldn't it be possible for someone who knows what they're doing with
ResEdit (i.e., not me) to perform some similar magic on the Stylewriter
drivers? Or maybe someone already has? I haven't seen such a thing at
any of the usual sites.

Anyone have any thoughts? . . .

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:05:59 EST
From: CHUCK WILLIAMS <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hypercard assistance needed...

Hello to all,

I need some direction towards a few examples I can use to write
an XCMD or XFCN that will allow me to send people on an Appletalk
network a message.  This message will be sent by the Hypercard
stack when a certain criteria is met (i.e. a time limit is exceeded.)
There are two zones in the lab where I work, will this make
a big difference?

Thanks,

Chuck Williams

[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:07:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #18

I have a problem and would like to know if anyone else is experiencing
this also. Last week I downloaded the latest version of Superclock
(version 4.0.1) for my macs (an SE30 and PB100 both running 7.0.1).
I experienced no problems getting it to run on my SE30, but I am still
unable to get it to run on my PB. I have deleted all extensions with the
exception  of Superclock using Extension Manager still to no avail.
I suspect a incompatibility with the PB100 (running under 7.0.1) but
I would like to know if others have expereinced the same.
Finally, if it is an incompatibility, could someone on AmericaOnline
notify the author. Thanks in advance.

Marty Wiglesworth
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:15:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (William F. Soreth)
Subject: Japanes/English Dictionary

Does anyone on the net know where I can find a English to Japanese
Dictionary   Program? It was out about a year and a half ago, and now I can't
find it, or    remember it's name. I also can't remeber if it's an app or
cdev, or init ect.

Please respond privately, I will repost to the Disgest if there is
enough       interest.


Thanks

Bill Soreth

[e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:52:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "William M. Porter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: jpeg help

I have found in the virtual world of ftp what appears to be a
treasure-trove of images/pictures that could be useful to me as a scholar
and teacher, but they are in a format called "jpeg." I've heard of it
before, but haven't ever used it, don't know what it is, or what I need to
do to view these files. Is this a format available or accessible only to
people using those nasty IBM-compatible machines, or can we who use Macs
also view jpegs? Is there a translator or viewer somewhere that will help
me with this? Thanks in advance.

William Porter / University of Houston

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:58 EST
From: Fritz Morgan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Laser printers in a lab, HELP!

Greeting fellow netters.  We are currently trying to offer laser printing to
the computer labs on campus but have a number of problems to solve before we
can do so.  They are as follows:

    o  Laser printing is very expensive, how do we charge the users for
    it?

    o  We need to be able to have both IBM's and Mac's connected to the
       printer.

    o  How do we keep track of who is printing and how many pages?

We currently are running DEC Pathworks for networking all of our computers
together in the labs, so we can use Pathworks as a print spooler.  What I was
wondering is how other people have tackled the problem of billing. Are there
any programs for both the Mac and IBM's that require a user to type in an
identification number before they can print?  Is there some form of a devit
card
system like commonly used on copy machines?  Any information on how to manage
laser printers in a lab would be greatly appreciated!  Also if anyone can
recommend a good lab laser printer that would also be very helpful!  Thank you
very much for your time!


                Fritz Morgan
                [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 1993 09:28:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Griffin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Locating Ethernet numbers on a Macintosh

Johan and anyone else interested,

I know of two ways to locate the ether-net numbers on a Mac.  One is if you
have MacTCP Installed.  Open up the MacTCP icon in the control panel.  Hold
down the <option> key and click once on the Ethernet icon.  The Ethernet
number
will be displayed beneath the icon.  The other way to get the Ethernet address
is to obtain a copy of a program entitled "GetMyAddress."  The program will
display all the addressing information of the currently selected ethernet card
in the macintosh.


Jim Griffin
Integrated Technologies
Indiana University - Purdue University at Indianapolis

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:30:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mudd Rat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking closer at the power-lock posting -- I screwed up

After posting my "Looking closer at the power-lock posting" I got some e-mail
>From [e-mail] explaining how to convert the seemingly
unusable A/UX file to something usable.  I'm still trying to convert this, but
hopefully it will work.  Sorry to all about my suspicions/questions.

Mike Unger

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:13:29 +0730
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac to Mac E-Mail Programs (R)

I posted a question last week about recommendations for Mac-to-Mac e-mail
programs--specifically, in situations where Macs might be connected to a
larger network which itself is on the Internet.  Since several have
requested that I post a summary of the opinions I received, I do here.

By far, the most popular suggestion was Eudora (which I am using to write
this message), a freeware program available from many sites on the
Internet.  Forgive me for not posting an anonymous FTP address here, but I
am running Eudora 1.2.2; there is now, I understand, Eudora 1.3, but the
author has since changed positions and the initial distribution sight has
been moved.  Perhaps someone would be kind enough to post the address for
those without archie access.

Be forewarned that Eudora requires MacTCP; one other very minor point is
that it requires a machine running a POP server to act as the "mail
distribution hub."  Each Mac user must have an account with e-mail access
on that machine, but this can be transparent to an individual user if an
administrator configures it for them.  Other than these very minor
requirements, Eudora seems to be the program of choice.  And best of all,
it's free!

One other proram which was recommended was Lee Mail.  This also, I believe,
requires MacTCP and an router to resolve addresses (i.e. each Mac must have
a listing in a hosts file), but it apparently does not require users to
have individual e-mail accounts on a server machine.

Thanks to those who responded to my call for opinions; I'm still relatively
new to the whole networking/e-mail concept, so feel free to add any
comments or correct my errors.

  Sean M. Joyce
  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:07:41 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <[e-mail]> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Mathimatica [12 x 12]^(-1)

I have a friend who is trying to invert a 12 x 12 matrix using the symbolic
algebra of Mathematica.  His last few attempts ran for days and the system
usually hung up or crashed before he got an answer.

I promised that I'd post a message and see if anyone has suggestions.  I
don't know what methods he's tried already.  Ane comments would be
appreciated.  By the way, respond directly to me and if we're successful,
I'll post the summary of responses.

Thanks.

Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:55:52 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Memory on the Quadra 700: Oops!

Hi there,
Regarding SH05219's message in the NymphoMac Disgust V11#19, and his
spanking-new 8Meg Simm.

Firstly I thought "Ooops! This dude's fried his meg!" by virtue of
installing it the wrong way round. The type of technology used to fabricate
these chips is supposed to be very prone to damage in a reversed polarity
scenario but in fact seems pretty resilient based on my (very limited)
experience... Anyway the Mac started up with RAM the other about so he/she
may be OK here. (perspiration!)

But was I right in remembering that the Quadra 700 will only accept up to
4MB SIMMS? There was a list called 'Macintosh Memory Configurations' or
something on Sumex with a table of these in. I'm not so sure 8Meg was on
the cards! But do please lash me with vigour should I prove to be in error.

Regards,
Steve
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:26:52 EST
From: Theodore Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Multiple Alarm Clock sought

I am looking for an alarm-clock program that allows one to set simultaneous
alarms for several different times during the day, with a (possibly)
different sound associated with each. (An obvious usage would be to set an
alarm for each hour on the hour, with the associated sound speaking the
time, but that's not what I need it for.)  Does such a thing exist?  I
can't seem to find one in the archives.  Part of a not-too-expensive
commercial package would be OK.

Ted Lee <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:45:28 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael Roman)
Subject: Personal LaserWriter NT question

What kind of SIMMs does the Personal LaserWriter NT use? Can I transplant
SIMMs from my Mac to a Personal LaserWriter NT? How much memory can I put
in there?

Mike Roman
Mike Roman
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:07:36 EST
From: [e-mail] (Prof. L.G. Leduc)
Subject: Powerlock 3.1 (C)

Mike ([e-mail]) states that he's worried about the new
version of Powerlock (3.1). I tried to reach the author of this program
also without success.

It seems that the person (author) uploaded a Bin/A/Ux file! So, that
explains why it is non functional.

As for worrying, I don't think the bad file is offensive - knock on wood!

Leo G. Leduc
[e-mail]

P.S. I've deleted it, just in case!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:03:13 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Bo Holst-Christensen)
Subject: PowerLock Problem (A)

Leo Leduc, Andy Law and Alexei Tsvetkov was wondering about the PowerLock
file in the archives.
After unbinhexing the file, you get a macbinary file. The sender must have
binhexed a macbinary file instead of converting it from macbinary to
binhex.
After converting this file you get a normal Macintosh archive.

   Bo Holst-Christensen
   [e-mail]      [e-mail]      FAX: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 1993 08:45:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerOrgasm vs JMP

Now I realize that there is a certain irony to this, but I need to report
the conflict anyway. :)  If you have PowerOrgasm installed you cannot
select columns to change data types in a JMP 2.0 spreadsheet.  You get
some kind of trap error.  SO, you can't have your JMP and a PowerOrgasm
too!  [Sorry, I couldn't resist.]

-Dwight

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:59:19 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Stewart Walker)
Subject: RE-  Ethernet number of Qua

              RE:  Ethernet number of Quadra
>From: [e-mail] (Johan Swahn) ...
If MacTCP is installed then hold the option key down when you click on the
Ethernet icon in the MacTCP control panel. Voila!

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:22:58 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Recording sounds (speech, actually)

If anyone out there can tell me how to make a
Mac II (vanilla II) digitize speech, please do.
Hardware, software, anything needed.  Thanks.

Peter Gerhardstein ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:42:47 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <[e-mail]> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: S-l-o-w IIx and slowing!

I can't find the reference, but I seem to recall reading an info-mac
posting about someone who had a very slow II-series MAC and the problem was
traced to the power supply!

We have a very slow IIx (it was quite fast when we first got it).  It's
running 7.0 with tune-up 1.1.1 and has an E-machines 16" monitor with
E-machines graphics card.  We have reformatted the hard drive with Silver
Lining, run Norton and Speed Disk, etc.  Nothing seems to make much
difference.....I really don't feel that it's related to the disk drives.

It acts as though the CPU is simply running at about 1/10 th the normal
speed.  Honestly, it's slower than a 68000 machine.  I'm going to run
Speedometer 3.1 when I get a chance an try to get some numbers to
illustrate how slow this thing really is.

Does anyone have a clue?



Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:33:58 -0500
From: Ed Ver Hoef <[e-mail]>
Subject: save-o-matic, anyone?(Q)

Yesterday I asked if anyone knew of the name of a program for automatically
saving my MS Word documents and Excel Worksheets and where I could find a
copy of that program.  I had lost my copy when I wiped my entire hard disk
some time ago and couldn't remember the name of the program.  I had looked
through the sumex archive in the hope that my mind would be triggered but it
was in vain.  A very kind individual replied this morning and reminded me
that it was called save-o-matic and was found in the cp folder in the sumex
archive.  In my haste to get the program, I erased the message before noting
the sender's name for which I humbly apologize.  Unfortunately, when I
checked the cp folder, the program is no longer there.  If some kind soul has
a copy and is willing to send it to me or repost it to the archive, I would
sincerely appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

Ed Ver Hoef

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:20:48 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: saveomatic

>A year or so ago I downloaded from sumex-aim a program which would
>automatical save my current file at a specifiable time interval whenever I
>was working in MS Word or Excel.  (Perhaps it would also do so for other
>applications but I don't remember.)  Some time ago I wiped out my entire hard
>disk.  I have restored much of what was lost but every so often I realize
>that something I once had, I no longer have.  This program is one of those
>former had things.  I don't even remember its name although it might have
>been something like auto-save.  Do any of you netters recognize the program
>>From this description and, if so, know where I can find a copy.  I have
>looked through several of the folders at sumex-aim for something to prod my
>memory but it was all in vain.

It's could be Saveomatic which works by sending a command-S at a specified
interval. I found it caused many conflicts with other inits and I don't use it
any more. You can get Saveomatic from one of the following:

archie.au
/micros/mac/umich/system.extensions/cdev/savomatic1.51.sit.hqx

quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de
/pub/mac/sys/cdev/savomatic1.51.sit.hqx

ftp.uni-kl.de
/pub/mac/cdev/savomatic1.51.sit.hqx

wuarchive.wustl.edu
/mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/system.extensions/cdev/savomatic1.51.sit.hqx

garbo.uwasa.fi
/mac/mirror.umich/system.extensions/cdev/savomatic1.51.sit.hqx

One warning though. Autosavers can be more trouble than they're worth. Imagine
the following. You have a 100 page Word document and you highlight 20 pages
that you want to run the spell checker through. Instead of hitting command-L
you accidently hit shift-L and the whole 20 pages are replaced by an "L". Just
as you're about to use "undo typing" to get your 20 pages back the autosaver
kicks in.... Scary thought huh?

Paul.

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 93 15:22:14 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Meyers)
Subject: Several miscellaneous System 7.x questions

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>1) Under System 7.1, I noticed that the basic system fonts (i.e.,
>   Geneva, Monaco, and Chicago) are located both in the System file and
>   in the Fonts folder.  Do I need to keep both sets?  If not, which set
>   should I trash?

You should see different Geneva Monaco and Chicago fonts in the
system file from those in the Fonts Folder. In the System file
itself, you may see Chicaago 12, Geneva 9 and 12 and Monaco 9,
as these are pretty essential basic fonts.  You will find other
sizes and styles and also the truetype versions separate in
your fonts folder.  You can trash the ones in the fonts folder
quite safely, but they are nice to have.

>2) What is the Claris folder within the System folder for (or why
>   should I keep it)?

It is used by any Claris applications you own.  It should not
be there unless you put it there yourself.  It is not part
of the System.  Claris has done a nice job of consolidating
much of their software by keeping certain parts in the Claris
folder.  In there, if you use Claris software, you will keep
their Help system engine, and dictionaries and thesaurus and
various translators.  That way, if you have more than one
Claris program, you still need only one copy of these things.

>3) What is the CapsLock system extension used for?

It is for us PowerBook people who have no capslock light on
our keyboards.  All it does is tell you when CapsLock has been
set.  It doesn't hurt anyting, but neither is it essential.

>4) What is the Network system extension used for?

Do you mean the control panel?

>I apologize if these are basic questions -- I was unable to find any
>discussion of these items in the System 7 documention.

I found the documentation to be pretty useless myself.  I'd have
liked more techincal details - ie. what each file does and why
it may or may not be necessary, etc.

--David

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:56:48 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SID II (Q), Recover HD space (Q), Mac-X (Q)

    SID II -- Sound Input Device II, is that laying around here?
I could not find it, if not could someone, please, upload it? Thanks :)

    Someone mentioned that it was possible to recover some lost
Megs from your HD. Something about it being in MacWorld, Feb? I have
MacWorld Feb 93 and can't find it. Could someone direct me to where
it is printed, and/or has someone made a text file out of the
instructions that I can ftp from here ?  Thanks again :)

    At work we have quadra that is running MacTCP and MacX, but
when we connect to a RS/6000 box we can not use the delete key. I have
tried the UNIX command "stty" but that does not seem to help. Any one
know what is going wrong? Thanks :)

    Also my news reader has been kind of screwy lately so if you
would, please, cc to my e-mail address any response. Thanks again :)

Later,
    Mike    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:44:39 PST
From: [e-mail] (Terry L. Hartman)
Subject: Space Shuttle Takeoff - QuickTime movie

Looking for a QuickTime movie of the Space Shuttle taking off (or anything
having to do with the Shuttle).

Terry L. Hartman
Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
U.T. - Pan American

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:04:35 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SuperClock 4.0.1


After reading about the boot problems when SuperClock 4.0.1 was installed
on a PB100 I felt the need to inform you all that my PB100 boots just fine
with SuperClock 4.0.1 installed. Also 4.0.2 works great. I use system 7.1
on the PowerBook, so maybe there is a problem with 7.0.1's tuneup's (?)...

One problem I did find, it that although my PowerBook is connected to the
wall outlet most of the time, I doesn't always show the lightning thing
inside the battery-indicator. Usually it does show, when the battery needs
charging, but goes away when it becomes full.

Regards,
Adam van Gaalen (  [e-mail])
         or ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:18:29 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Systech (alias Novy) accelerator boards for the SE

Since I got lots of email about Systech (aka Novy) acclerator boards, here is
the blurb:

I run a 33 mhz Systech acclerator (68030 and 68882, both 33 mhz) in a dual
800K
floppy drive SE. The board fits in the SE slot and it is *screaming* fast. It
also drives a lovely 1024 by 768 dual page 19" black and white monitor. Unlike
Mobius and others (Extreme Systems) the video runs at full 33 mhz 030 speed
and
the processor has a 32 bit path to video memory. Mac SE rom is copied into
ram,
so toolbox calls also run at 33 mhz. This machine easily outruns a IIci or
IIvx. The board supports 36 different monitors, including Radius. Price is in
the $1000-$1500 range WITH monitor, depending on clockrate. They say the 50
mhz
version runs dead even with a Quadra 700 or 900.

I love it.

I am sick and tired of apple's compromise computers, with
abandonment/orphanage
of good products (Remember the SE/30 and the IIci?) so I opted for the 3rd
party solution. I have used Novy/Systech products since I got #4 of their
first
68020 board for the Mac+ in the days *before* there was a Mac II. They have
always sold good solid products and have a very good track record of treating
their customers right. WARNING, I *do* beta test for these folks now, but a
don't get a nickel from them, either in $$ or hardware goodies; I just think
they sell the right stuff :)  . Systech is at [phone].

------------------------------

Date: 25 Jan 93 19:18:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Conrad Halling)
Subject: System 7 Monaco TrueType doesn't print correctly

The Monaco TrueType font contains an error.  Monaco is supposed to be a
monospaced font, but the characters do not align correctly.  The space
character is printed at different widths, throwing off character alignment.
I have observed this under System 7.0, 7.0.1, and 7.1.  The problem occurs
on the ImageWriter II, StyleWriter II, and LaserWriter.  The programs I
have tried are BBEdit, Microsoft Word 4.0 (with or without fractional
widths), and WriteNow 3.0 (with or without fractional widths).

Here is an example.  Note that the '{' characters are aligned with the first
character of the previous line.  But when this is printed, the '{'
character is shifted to the left.

    for (j = 0L; j < si[i]->memcnt - 2; j += 3)
    {
        for (k = 0L, val = 0L; k < 3; ++k)
        {
        val <<= 2;
        switch (seq[j+k])
        {   case 'C':
            case 'c':

--
Conrad Halling
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:02:19 EST
From: [e-mail] (Alan S. Dobkin)
Subject: System Enablers (new in MacWeek 1/25/93)

Has anyone seen/heard any information about the new System Enablers
that are mentioned in the latest (1/25/93) issue of MacWeek on page 39?
For those who don't receive it, Peter Breis mentions in a letter to
MacWeek:  "One of Apple's recent announcements was the use of System
Enablers to fit the increasingly less compatible new Macintoshes to
System 7.1."  I'd like to find out more about this new development,
and the MacWeek editor mentions:  "Current versions of the Enablers
are available on Apple-Link and on Apple's Internet-accessible FTP
(File Transfer Protocol) server."  However, I don't have Apple-Link
access, and I haven't found them anywhere on bric-a-brac.apple.com,
if that's the server that the editor is referring to.

Has anyone else had any other luck?

Sincerely,
Alan Dobkin

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 08:15:49 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TEX Converters

Hi Netters,

in our department we have got a lot of documentation of developed software
written in TEX and LATEX. Meanwhile we are switching over to MAC Platforms
partly. Does anyone know a converter that at least partly can automize
document
conversions from TEX/LATEX to MS Word/Math-Type, or MacWrite, Nisus or
other??


Thanks for advice

Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:49:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Hughes)
Subject: The IIsi is no more????

David Steiner writes:

>Okay, maybe I was asleep when the news came down but...

    These things happen to the best of us... ;->

>A couple of issues ago (I'm always behind a bit) someone mentioned in the
>context of a discussion of the sound problems with the IIsi that it would be
>discontinued in Febuary.

    Yup. It's on the way out with the IIci, the LCII, and the Q700.

>I had heard that the IIci might be discontiued due to the introduction of the
>V-series but I missed the discussion on the IIsi.

    Well, the original rumor was that both the IIci and the IIsi were
being dropped back in Oct. when the vx and the vi came out. Well, this
didn't happen so they are being dropped in Feb. to make way for the new
midrange macs that will be '040 based instead of '030 based.

>As I am getting ready to buy one of the two within the next couple of months,
>I would appreciate some light on the subject.

>As a follow-up, if the IIsi is indeed no more, what is the next comparable
>alternative?

    Well, definately wait til the new machines are released in Feb. The
new machines for Feb. are the LCIII (IIci in LC case), the Centris 610
(LC-like 20 Mhz 68LC040), the Centris 650 (25Mhz 68LC040 in vx case),
and the Quadra 800 (Mini-Tower version of the Q950).

-Hades
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:08:04 EST
From: "Charles A. Patrick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Using CE Fonts & Reading Disks on a Plus

I have recently acquired what are ostensibly CE versions of Courier,
Helvetica, and Palatino in TrueType from a local Apple dealer. Using Key Caps,
the option key displays the usual accents, accept under n where the double
acute shows up. The balance of the extra accents and the double acute show up
under option-shift. However I am unable to use the accents: for example,
option
 n followed by o, gives me o with a tilde over it; shift-option n followed by
an o does not give me an o with a double acute over it in the Hungarian
fashion
but gives be the double acute FOLLOWED by the o. How do I get the accenting to
work properly? Am I missing something obvious?

Just yesterday I formatted a 800K Floppy on a PowerBook 100 external drive and
copied a number of items onto it. When I tried to read this same Floppy on two
different Mac Pluses, the Floppy was not recognisable. I subsequently tried it
on my FDHD equipped SE30 and had no problems reading it. I recall encounering
a similar problem when this same SE30 was a lowly pre-FDHD SE; It refused to
recognise IIci formatted 800K Floppy. Would someone kindly explain what is
going on?

Thank you.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:41:06 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Dr. Jon Stewart)
Subject: Using mcvert [Q]

Dear Net-Land,

I recently got mcvert to compile on our Unix box since I was told that
it could convert binary files to BinHex files for downloading.  I tried
all of the options but I can't make it do this.  I'm trying to convert
an 8-bit PICT file from a Silicon Graphics machine to a 7-bit .hqx`
file.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jon Stewart - Department of Chemistry - Penn State University

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:18 N
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Utility for getting a list of file sharing servers and users

I remember that there was a utility, that put together a list of all
users or servers on the net.
I completely forgot the name and didn't find a catching name in the
/comm directory.
Could please someone give me a hint, what the name is/was ?

Dan Wismer              University of Fribourg          Switzerland

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:01:04 -0500
From: [e-mail]

Pete Tamas <[e-mail]> writes:
>I note that in 1984 when the original Macintosh came out, WYSIWYG
>meant that the font you chose was actually on the screen. Back then,
>if you had a PC, you could with certain printers tell it which font
>you wanted to use. It did not show on the screen, but you could use
>it in the printed document. Seeing it on the screen was a dramatic
>improvement. And, we had no idea what kerning was.

This seems apocryphal.  Based on everything I have ever seen, and the
design of the devices and software, when the original Mac came out, WYSIWYG
meant what it means today: one screen inch is one paper inch is one mental
inch and so on.  On a properly adjusted Mac display at 72dpi, using an
accurate printer, driven by well crafted software, you should be able to
hold the printout over the screen image and they will line up perfectly,
within the limits of device resolution.   If they don't, one or more of the
above specifications wasn't met. That's how it was intended to be, and the
credit due the designers for this leap of intuition should not be
underestimated.  If the early attempts didn't quite live up to the goal, oh
well.

Come to think of it, the current attempts at WYSIWYG aren't too reliable
either :-)

Paul Baim

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