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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 22 Jan 93       Volume 11 : Issue 17

Today's Topics:

      APDA Email address? (A)
      APDA Email address? [A]
      Apple's system utilities (was Re: Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?)
      Associating snds to actions in FM Pro 2 (A)
      AutoDoubler [Actually GateKeeper] woes (R) (2 msgs)
      Binary files and the umich archives
      Connecting a PC to an Appletalk printer (Q)
      corrupt Filemaker Pro file
      Creating tar files in StuffIt (R)
      Earth GIF (Q)
      Font names listed in hierarchal menu (Q)
      Hispanic lists
      IIsi sound problem
      IIsi Sound Problem? I expect so.
      InBox Questions (R-2) a 2nd view point
      Invisible "Stuart" file mystery?
      Latest Internet domain survey
      Learning Japanese (Q)
      Looking for good read/write optical drive
      Mac -> Mac e-mail programs (Q)
      Mac sa a terminal for VAX/VMS (C)
      New Mac Machine releases
      PowerBook 100 jeweled bearings search - REWARD!
      PowerLock Problem (C)
      PowerLock Problem (Q)
      Power PC/68060/Taligent/Windows NT
      Question on the features in Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.x (R)
      SANE patch for 7.1 (A)
      Stylewriter II drivers (Q)
      the-player-ii.hqx
      the sound thing revisited
      Tremendously Huge PostScript Files
      Tremendously Huge PostScript Files (A)
      Umich archives--binary access not needed
      What is comp.sys.*?
      your mail

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 04:20:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gaeke)
Subject: APDA Email address? (A)

It's <[e-mail]> or just APDA on applelink...Brian

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:17:06 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Vinko Tsui)
Subject: APDA Email address? [A]

>Subject speaks for itself really. What is the APDA email address? I'm
>interested
>in getting hold of the tools catalogue and info on 'Develop'.
>
>Yours succinctly, Mike

Mike, APDA's EMail address is [e-mail]

Vinko Tsui
Vinko Enterprises
1193 Lindsay Drive
Oakville, Ontario
Canada
L6M 3B8
Tel.: [phone]
Fax.: [phone] (automatic Fax Modem attached)
AppleLink: CDA1051
America Online: Vinko
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:47:03 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Werner Uhrig)
Subject: Apple's system utilities (was Re: Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?)

 [e-mail] (Ralph Martin) writes:
|
|| Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?
|
> No.
|
|| I checked the Frog using Disk First Aid 7.1. It found "invalid sibling"
|| I ran Disk First Aid ~10 times; [only sometimes did] it find a variety of
|| different problems (which I didn't allow it to fix).
|| Norton Utilities finds nothing wrong with the drive and it works just
fine.
|
> I have had *exactly* the same symptoms with a Rodime disk with Rodime's
> own Cobra driver. Run DFA on it and it would give an error, and even
> without quitting DFA, run it again on the same disk and it would say it
> was OK. Norton finds nothing wrong. This has been going on for me since
> System 7.0 (perhaps even longer), and its not new to 7.1. In the end I
> have just learnt to ignore it. The disk itself seems OK.

    let's face it, Apple never made a credible effort (if any at all) to
    provide the customer with system maintenance and support utilities
    that
    "could make a software designer proud" - and SHAME ON THEM for that!

    Most support utilities we have seen released by Apple, quite likely,
    were efforts by well-meaning individual engineers (working on it more
    or less on their own time) which were recognized to perform a useful
    function; too useful to not pass on to others, but never polished
    and maintained to conform with the software standards (interface and
    user-friendliness) that Apple claims to be setting in the industry
    (and calls for in the software of their certified developers) and
    which, I think, we have a (customer) right to expect!

    That said (and one should probably encourage everyone to let Apple
    hear about such sentiments - and repeatedly and via a variety of
    different channels... so that they don't go wrong when they continue
    on their planned path to replace Microsoft as the premier OS software
    company ;-) it seems possible that the problem might just as well be
    with the driver software of those disks not behaving in conformance
    with some assumed "standard" expected by DFA (something never
    published,
    maybe?  or something completely silly - just as much a possibility),
    something which NU either is unaware of (or not checking for?)....

    Be it as it may, a lot of poor driver software has been developed,
    DFA and NU have had their share of problems, and problems in SCSI
    cables, connectors, soft and firmware are also frequent cause of grey
    hair and nervous breakdowns...  to single out DFA as "particularly
    untrustworthy" seems, to me, uncalled for.  I basically trust it over
    Norton Utilities, for example - though I often wonder why their
    features and capabilities are not better documented, in a manner
    that would allow a person so inclined to study and evaluate and
    compare what it is exactly that they are doing on the users behalf.

    well, you got me started on one of my favorite <grumbles> ...
--
  [e-mail] |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | [e-mail]

          "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:38 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Associating snds to actions in FM Pro 2 (A)

David,

Here's a method for doing what you want, I think.  If I understand you
correctly.

Create a field and set it to the type "sound".
Paste the sound you want to use into it.
Create the graphic, field, whatever, you want to use as a button.
Define the button with the command "Go to field..."
Under the "Options" for this field, you can select the field you want to go
   to - in this case, the one you defined above that contains the sound.
   There will also be a checkbox marked "Play Sound".  You MUST check this
   box for it to work.
Resize the field to be small enough to hide behind the button.
Place the field BEHIND the button by using the "Send Backwards" menu command
Now when you click the button ONCE, the script will execute which will go to
   the field hidden behind the button and cause the sound to play.
The only problem I haven't mastered is that the cursor is then in the "hidden"
   field.  I tried adding the command to the button script "Go to Previous
   Field", but that doesn't seem to work for me for some reason.

Hope this helps.


oops - In proofreading the above, the first occurence of the word "field" in
line number 5 of the instructuon set should be the word "button" instead.

Steve Jones
Assistant Professor of Design & Technology
Middle Tennessee State University

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:16:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Charles H Mingo)
Subject: AutoDoubler [Actually GateKeeper] woes (R)

Jack Repenning writes (in reply to me):

>"The point" (that it appears Charlie missed) is that GK's whole
>purpose is to detect actions whose most probable explanation is viral
>activity.

"Most probable explanation"?  I think not.  GateKeeper requires the
user to grant a range of privileges to a whole host of apps,
precisely because GK inaccurately flags many legitimate programs
as viruses.  Why, I think the conflict with AutoDoubler ALONE would
produce far more false alarms, than true viruses detected by GK.

>These "suspicious" activities do, indeed, include some things
>described in _IM_.  Certainly, this creates conflicts.  GK includes
>extensive conflict resolution, and Chris has added "hidden"
>resolutions on occasion in the past.  It's unfortunate that this sort
>of thing is needed, but no one has come up with a way to provide this
>level of protection without these conflicts.

In other words: you CHOSE to install virus software that you KNEW was
almost certain to cause conflicts with "well-behaved" applications
because you decided you wanted GK so badly that you were prepared to
put up with such conflicts.

If you want to put software like that on your Mac, be my guest; but
don't go blaming the authors of well-behaved applications when GK
malfunctions.  It's virtually designed to do that.

>The problem with AD 2.0 is not that there is a conflict, but that
>Salient and/or FGS apparently made no effort even to discover it
>before release, let alone to work with Chris to find a way around the
>problem.

"Discover" conflicts?  That's a bit of a weasel-word.  We KNOW GK
causes conflicts right and left, so there is not much to "discover."
I think you are trying to suggest that AD be rewritten to _avoid_
any conflicts with GK, or that the release of any new version of
AD be postponed until Chris deigns to write a patch to GK.

Neither of these solutions are doable.  FGS is entitled to use ANY
calls documented in Inside Macintosh, regardless of that twaddle
about their "most probable explanation [being] viral activity."
ALL the calls in IM serve a legitimate purpose; none were put there
to facilitate the operation of viruses.

And I doubt there is any developer on earth who would postpone
releases of new versions to allow for the author of a buggy
_IM_ non-compliant utility to figure out what mistakes he had
made.  Any conflicts that occur are Chris's fault, and are solely
his responsibility to fix.

>Instead,
>they climb up onto their high horse about _IM_ -- which I believe is
>missing the point just as much for them as for anyone else -- and
>about "business realities."  I conclude that they made no such effort.

Alas, that IS exactly the point.  The very purpose of Inside Macintosh
is to allow developers to write programs that do not conflict with
each other or the operating system.  This is how APPLE has chosen to
handle the issue of program conflicts -- NOT by having all developers
exchange source code prior to release of any new product (or whatever
it is Chris wants FGS to do for him).

If Chris has chosen to throw the most basic rules of Macintosh software
development down the toilet, there is little point in anyone else
trying to fix his programs for him.

>As to "business realities," I pointed out to them that the "business
>reality" is that they will get no more of my money, nor that of anyone
>I can convince, so long as they refuse to cooperate with Chris.

You are not Apple.  You cannot deliver ultimatums to developers to
rewrite their products to work with yours.  IF you follow the rules
in _Inside Macintosh_ and you still have conflicts, THEN someone
might listen to your problems.  If you choose to break the rules,
you have only yourself to blame.

Charlie Mingo                                   Internet: [e-mail]
2209 Washington Circle #2   CIS: 71340,2152               [e-mail]
Washington, DC  20037       AT&T:  202/785-2089           [e-mail]


[Since it is possible to write viruses using only techniques and OS calls
 documented in Inside Macintosh, an anti-virus tool that intends to block
 general virus-like activity has no choice but to impose more restrictions on
 application behavior than IM allows. This is not a "problem" or "fault" in
 Gatekeeper, but a fundamental reality that all anti-virus tools of this kind
 must deal with.

 Since both Gatekeeper and AutoDoubler are popular pieces of software, there
 is no sense in which one "obviously" should be redesigned to support the
 other
 (unless you believe that the whole concept of anti-virus tools is bogus,
 a plainly unrealistic attitude). Responsible developers should work together
 to avoid incompatibilities. My understanding is that the AutoDoubler folks
 have been unwilling to cooperate.

 I believe a responsible company has a duty to expend some effort to support
 free anti-viral tools, since Apple is being completely unhelpful in providing
 a compatible solution in the system itself. If it is true that FGS has been
 unhelpful and uncooperative, they deserve the blame. -Bill]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:44:11 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Miles Abernathy)
Subject: AutoDoubler [Actually GateKeeper] woes (R)

I give lots of credit to GateKeeper for keeping the Mac world clear of the
very nasty kinds of viruses that infest the DOS world. As an interested
party (I have met Chris Johnson twice, and I use AutoDoubler 2.0), I think
the AD folks should be falling all over themselves trying to help Chris,
not pretending his software doesn't exist.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:43:51 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Binary files and the umich archives

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #16 Raph Koster writes:
>The entire archive at UMich is
>useless to me because binary capability is expected.

mac.archive.umich.edu has exactly *one* file what requires a binary download
--
BinHex 4.0 itself.  While it's true that we have an entire local copy of the
arcives stored in AppleDouble format, these files are USELESS to anyone not
at UMich proper (and we have a notice to this effect).  Every file we have
is stored in BinHex format for the reasons that have been/are being discussed
here in the digest.

Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions.

                    jonathan brecher
                    [e-mail]
                    assistant mac.archivist

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:49:10 GMT
From: Mark Henry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Connecting a PC to an Appletalk printer (Q)

Hello there,

A short query concerning connecting a PC to the Appletalk port of
my Star laser printer 4.

Can it be done?

Either port on the PC could be used; i.e. the COM or LPT.

I am trying to do this  in order to print postscript files through
the Appletalk connector (via Windows).  Is a special utility needed
to this after I have connected the two?

Thanks for any help you can give me with this one,

Mark Henry,
University College Dublin, Ireland.
[e-mail].

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:29:04 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: corrupt Filemaker Pro file

We've got a corrupt FileMaker Pro (no backup, sigh :-( ) which we've
recovered for the fouth time (i.e. 4th generation recovery file) and still
FM Pro 1.0 crashes when trying to open the file (bad F-line instruction).
Is there any way to rescue the info from that file ? Even an recovered
ASCII file would be great.

[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:47:52 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Creating tar files in StuffIt (R)

>I read a review of the package in a recent MacWeek
>article, and the article mentioned that Stuffit Deluxe can read UNIX
>"tar" files.  However, the article didn't mention whether the package
>could also write "tar" files.  Can it?
>
    StuffIt Deluxe is able to create as well as expand "tar" files.  It
is also able to create & expand Unix Compress (.Z) files, atob/btoa files,
uuencode/uudecode and many other Mac, PC and Unix formats.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:03:13 -0500
From: Ed Ver Hoef <[e-mail]>
Subject: Earth GIF (Q)

In IM #16 the question of a picture of the Earth from some view other than
that of the Middle East and Africa was again raised.  Someone correctly
pointed out that all such pictures came from the Apollo program.

I often wondered why we never seemed to see any views other than the Middle
East and Africa.  Once, when speaking with one of the Apollo crew members, I
asked him about it.  Surprisingly, the answer he gave was that the plan for
the transfer orbit from Earth orbit to Lunar orbit was such that (at least at
the appropriate distance) the spacecraft was always over that part of the
globe.  At the time I simply accepted that answer and didn't pursue it any
further but in retrospect, it doesn't quite make sense to me.  I can believe
that the transfer orbit normally might begin a certain number of minutes
after a specified number of orbits after launch and that would always put the
spacecraft over essentially the same area of the globe.  But what I find hard
to understand is that because the transfer orbit takes a few days, one would
think that during the early portion of that transition the Earth's rotation
would have brought other portions of the globe within view at a distance that
still would have been reasonable for photography with an acceptable focal
length lens.  The same sort of circumstances and questions apply to the
return trip.  I'm certainly not knowledgeable about orbital mechanics and I
wonder if any of the readers of this digest could shed light on this matter.

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Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:37:00 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail] (Tom Wentzel)
Subject: Font names listed in hierarchal menu (Q)

To continue the discussion about font names listed in their own font, let
me throw a wrench into the discussion.  Type 1 and type 3
fonts have names which start with various letters indicating whether the
font is "Bold" (B) or "Condensed" (C) or other such variations.  A font
family such as Futura can have many of these variations, and they all
appear alphabetically arranged, strewn all over my pop-down font menu.
Does anyone know of freeware or shareware, or, barring that, commercial
software, which can group all those variations under "Futura" (or whatever
font it is) in the menu, with a sub-menu that can then appear on the side
once "Futura" is highlighted showing the variations?  I recently purchased
Suitcase and thought that would do the trick because of the promise that
it can organize "font families," but as far as I can understand it, it only
allows you to change the displayed name of all those variations to be the
same thing, say, "Futura," with no sub-menu available.  If I'm bothering to
clog up my hard disk with all those font variations, I'd like to see what
they are in a font submenu in the same fashion that Be-Hierarchic allows
for the use of submenus in the Apple menu.
   And then for the kicker:  can any of these software packages do both
the above AND display the fonts in their own typeface?  Is the display
"permanent" or controllable with a keypress?
   You can reply either to me or to Info-Mac Digest.  If I get many replies,
I'll post a summary.  Thanks!

-Tom Wentzel
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:17:03 PST
From: [e-mail] (Steven C. Velasco)
Subject: Hispanic lists

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>On Saturday, Jan 16, an editorial appeared in the Philadelphia
>Inquirer titled "Computer bulletin boards should speak Spanish
>too". It was primarily a complaint about Prodigy only permitting
>messages in English, but also mentioned that CompuServe has
>no Spanish language forums nor any forums focusing on concerns
>specific to the Hispanic community. I am aware that there are at
>least two lists on the Internet concerning Hungarian-related
>issues and one of them is in Hungarian only. I am also aware
>that Poland-L often has messages in Polish with a short summary
>in English. Perhaps there are some Spanish language lists and/or
>one focusing on the needs of the Hispanic community.
< Stuff deleted.>>

There are at least two forums dealing with 'Hispanic' issues
on the Internet.  One is a mailing list, Latino-L at Amherst,
and the other is a news group called soc.culture.mexican .
Both of these forums receive posts/mailings in english and spanish.
Latino-L seems to deal alot with issues confronting Hispanic
students in College and selected discussions of Latin American
politics.  soc.culture.mexican has a strong slant
toward issues affecting Mexicans, and Americans of Mexican heritage
(hence, the name).  Hope this helps
--Steven Velasco
  UC Santa Barbara

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:54:15 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIsi sound problem

>It angers me that I have to repeatedly hit the Reset Sound Fkey everytime I
>want to hear sound. Fkey 8 is getting *very* worn out.(This doesn't always
>work, and then I have to shutdown and restart to get sound activated
>again.)
>
>I have found another rather unique sound jump start technique when the fkey
>doen't work. I launch Arashi 1.0a and turn up the volume with the (+) key.
>This usually stimulates the sound driver. What it does different I do not
>know. There was a some vague talk on comp.sys.mac.games about Arashi's
>superior sound driver (?). If this is true, would a third party system
>extension/sound driver based on Arashi's sound management be possible???

Do you want to know a low-tech solution that works EVERY time? Give your IIsi
a gentle whack on the left hand side, about in the middle (on the box, not the
monitor :-) Works for all the IIsi here.

Paul.
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:46:06 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IIsi Sound Problem? I expect so.

Hi there [e-mail] and all netters,

I'm pretty sure the classic 'IIsi Sound Problem' is caused by slight
oxidation of the springy metal 'fingers' on the speaker which make contact
with an edge-connector on the mac motherboard. This is corroborated by the
problem disappearing immediately you remove the speaker, clean the fingers
and edge connector with isopropyl alcohol and reassemble.
The cotton-buds come off the edge connector slightly grey. Neither the
fingers nor the edge connector are gold-flash coated, only the silvery
tinning that the copper circuit board tracks are coated with, which is
prone to oxidizing. It doesn't need to be green and crumbly to be oxidized!

I noticed with some (smug and inappropriate) mirth that some people have
actually written code to send a 90 MegaWatt fart or something to the
speaker, to prime it for the day's usage (to clear the blockage so to
speak).
This may temporarily overcome the extra resistance on the contacts and
perhaps fractionally displace the small area of metal-metal contact by
virtue of Richter-Scale, seismic displacement, but a fix that is good for
half a dozen months is one that involves cleaning the contacts.
So I reckon your desk and the Lab below you may well be nice and dry and
less likely to cause oxidation, that you don't breathe out vast quantities
of alcoholic vapour like me or, you're just plain lucky!
Got any vacancies at your place?

Cheers!
Steve Taylor
[e-mail]

P.S. Sorry about the foul language!

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Date: 22 Jan 93 13:00:00 EST
From: "GINBOX::"Scott_Weininger-2151_EMail""
<"Scott_Weininger-2151_EMail"[e-mail]>
Subject: InBox Questions (R-2) a 2nd view point

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:    Fri, Jan 22, 1993 @ 12:19:13 PM
Re:      InBox Questions (R-2) a 2nd view point
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:19:39 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: InBox Questions (R)

>May be someone has answers to the following questions:
>
>1. what is the latest version of INBOX ?
>2. is INBOX Quadra compatible ?
>3. is there a distributer of IMBOX in Germany ?
>4. any other contact address ?
>
>Thank you for your help !
>
>Hans
>[e-mail]

>Inbox is QUITE dead.  CE bought the program from Sitka (TOPS) and
>offered Inbox users and very nice deal on CE Mail.  (About $25 per
>node, as I recall--I didn't take them up on it.)

>Quadra compatible?  Ha!  Inbox was hardly system 6 compatible!

>I suppose you could try calling or writing CE.  They may offer you
>some sort of discount on CE Mail.

>A quick look at the ole' QuicKeys box reveals:
>CE SOftware, Inc.
>P.O. Box 65580
>W. Des Moines, IA 50265
>[phone]

>--Brian Pickerill  <[e-mail]>

For those that care I am using InBox 3.0G to type this email on a Quadra 700.

Yes InBox is a dead product, CE Software graciously offered me a $24/per user
{UPGRADE} I declined.  We have 8-100 user InBox Message Centers (about 700
active users) in operation and a custom version of Alisa's MailMate Gateway
for
InBox in operation(that is how I get to the Internet).  That is a substantial
investment and transitioning to a new product is a serious question.  We have
chose to wait for Apple's OCE.

In the mean time, the leading programmer for the former Sitka (TOPS) product
InBox, just prior to its selloff, helped us patch the final version of InBox
Version 3.0G to make it 32bit Clean.  In addition the that patch thru trial
and
error we found that if you open the InBox Init like a Control Panel and turn
off Notify it will not crash a Quadra at startup.  Remember all InBox files
must be in the root System Folder, not dispersed.

If anyone is interested in the PATCHED InBox 3.0G Client (remember you pay for
the server) contact me via email or if the response is large I'll ask Info-Mac
to post the Compressed Image.

--Scott Weininger  NUWC InBox Gateway (GINBOX) Administrator

email  [e-mail]

snail mail

Scott Weininger
NUWC/Det NL
Code 2151
New London, Ct 06320

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 05:16:16 PST
From: [e-mail] (Mark Edward Zimmerman)
Subject: Invisible "Stuart" file mystery?

A friend has discovered an invisible file on his Mac's desktop, named
"Stuart"; it's of type "GIBS" with creator "CDGL", 336 bytes long in
the resource fork, no data fork; created on 17 Dec 92, last modified 1
Jan 93; when he looked in it with ResEdit he saw one resource of type
"STTS" ... is this something to be concerned about?  Can he just trash
it?  Tnx!  ^z ([e-mail])

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:44:50 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Latest Internet domain survey

Here is the latest domain survey summary as conducted by the NIC.

Cheers,
Scott.
[e-mail]

Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:36:19 PST
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Internet Domain Survey

Network Information Systems Center                             January 1993
SRI International                                    Internet Domain Survey

 The Domain Survey attempts to discover every host on the Internet by doing a
 complete search of the Domain Name System.  The latest results gathered
 during mid-January 1993 are listed.  For more information see RFC 1296; for
 detailed data see the pub/zone directory on ftp.nisc.sri.com.  This survey
 was done using the census program developed at the University of California
 on Santa Cruz; see technical report UCSC-CRL-92-34 on host ftp.cse.ucsc.edu.
 The statistics below were generated by running the collected host data
 through a number of utility programs.
                              -- Mark Lottor


     January 1993      Oct 92   Jul 92   Apr 92   Jan 92   Change
     (Jan-Jan)
 ==============================================================================
 Hosts:     1,313,000   1,136,000  992,000  890,000  727,000    80.6%
 Domains:      21,000      18,100   16,300   20,000   17,000    23.5%


          Number of Networks (based on DNS IP addresses)

     January 1993      Oct 92   Jul 92   Apr 92   Jan 92   Change
     (Jul-Jan)
 ==============================================================================
 Class A:          54          52       60                      -9.0%
 Class B:        3206        2985     2714                      18.1%
 Class C:        4998        4468     3795                      31.7%
 Total:          8258        7505     6569                      25.7%


        Host Distribution by Top-Level Domain Name
             and Percent Change since Jan 92

 410940 edu  69%    23581 ch  86%     3542 kr 136%     782 is   *    29 cy   *
 347486 com  92%    23197 jp 171%     3451 hk 684%     692 us 475%   17 my   *
  79772 gov  72%    20109 no  97%     2418 be 588%     610 hu   *    13 tn
  -52%
  67111 de  116%    16356 fi  36%     2053 nz  84%     349 cl   *    11 yu   *
  62327 mil 127%     9986 net 26%     1912 cs   *      121 lu   *     8 lv   *
  61429 au   94%     9052 at 172%     1910 br 536%     112 ve   *     5 th   *
  58431 uk  208%     7834 it 188%     1882 pt 141%     105 ar   *     5 gb   *
  52755 ca   95%     5911 es 256%     1663 pl   *       89 ee   *     4 aq   *
  31490 org  64%     5459 dk 204%     1365 sg 182%      79 in   *     3 cr   *
  26014 fr  100%     4356 za 368%     1330 ie 259%      63 su -67%    1 si   *
  25991 se   40%     4143 il 104%     1239 mx 339%      58 int n/a    1 bg   *
  25665 nl  101%     4021 tw 398%      860 gr 160%      45 ec   *
               [* = over 1000%]

                  Top 50 Host Names

     633 venus      475 mac2        380 mac4      326 mac11      311 sirius
     595 cisco      452 pc2         379 eagle     326 hermes     311 mac9
     590 pluto      443 mercury     358 mac5      324 mac7       311 calvin
     562 mars       443 iris        358 gauss     323 merlin     302 mac14
     527 pc1        435 charon      354 mac10     321 mac12      301 mac15
     522 zeus       411 mac3        338 mac6      320 thor       300 athena
     519 gw         409 orion       338 hobbes    319 mac8       292 mac16
     496 jupiter    385 pc3         335 pc4       319 mac13      289 phoenix
     494 mac1       382 newton      332 apollo    318 alpha      285 pc5
     484 saturn     381 neptune     330 fred      313 titan      284 gateway


        Frequently Asked Questions about the Domain Survey

 What'da all those domain names stand for?
    See pub/zone/iso-country-codes on ftp.nisc.sri.com.

 Why does the domain count go up and down?
    I don't know.  Do you want to count them?

 Are all those hosts really on the Internet?
    You would have to ping them to find out.  If they each took 100
    milliseconds to reply to a ping, you could find out in only 37 hours.

 How many users are on the Internet?
    Some people estimate around 10 per host (13 million people).
    If all of them were appropriately registered, the birthday-daemon
    would have to deliver 35,616 email messages each day.

 Where can I get more information?
    See the pub/zone directory on ftp.nisc.sri.com.

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Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:57:10 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Learning Japanese (Q)

Hi Netters,

I have the following questions :

Are there any SW/PD or freeware programs to learn in an easy way
the Japanese language and the different Kanji-, Hiragana- and
Katakana-signs ?
Finally is there a way to write those on a standard ASCII-
keyboard ?

Thanks for your help !

Hans
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: 22 Jan 93 21:15:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Charles Packard)
Subject: Looking for good read/write optical drive

RE: Looking for good read/write optical drive

I am also looking into optical 128MB drives. I can add some salesy
information to the discussion.

Pinnacle Micro, 800/553-7070
model PMO-130
list $1995, dealers are offering for around $1500
Claim 19ms access on what they call a 1/3 stroke test standard to the
optical industry - note this is NOT the same test hard drive manufactures
use. WIth the 4MB cache, read/write transfer rate is 1.4MB. With out the
cache, read/write averages 360K. The PMO-130 was released before the 11-92
MacWorld optical disk review. The PMO-650 which shares software and cache
technology was the recommended buy for 650MB drives.
NOTE: the split optics and  mechanism of the PMO-650 are NOT used in the
PMO-130. This is from one of their sales persons, even when I called him
on the fact that the sales literature specifically says it has "split
optic design". Even so, the numbers given for the PMO-130 are exactly the
same as the PPMO-650.

MacDirect, 800/621-8461
sold directly, NuDesign MOST $1298, NuDesign Epson $1188
The MOST mechanism drive was in the MacWorld review, it was one of the two
recommended 128MB drives. The MOST is said to have 30ms average access
time, the Epson 38ms. The salesperson could not specify the test used for
either model. Transfer rate is 512KB/sec and 768KB/sec for MOST and Epson
respectively. The spindle speeds are 2400 and 3600 in the same order. Both
have 256KB cache.

MacProducts, 800/622-3475
Magic 128 Turbo
sold directly, $1199
The earlier model (Magic 128) was the other MacWorld recommended buy. The
new model is the same Epson 3600 rev/minute mechanism as the NuDesign
Epson listed above. Again, salesperson had only an Epson data sheet
and could tell me what kind of test were used to derive access and
transfer rate specs.

Errata:
The MacProducts salesperson said the drive could NOT be a  start-up
device. PMO's guy said theirs could, I forgot to ask MacDirect.

The PMO-130 has been shipping for less then 2 weeks.

All said drives come with cable and cdev/init, disk ejection is via trash
can.

regards,
chuck packard
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:27:05 +0730
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac -> Mac e-mail programs (Q)

This is probably a FAQ, but can anyone recommend a good PD or freeware Mac
-> Mac mail program?  We have several Macs connected to our campus network,
which in turn is on Internet, and we are investigating providing e-mail
capabilities to our users who don't have accounts on our UNIX machines.
Are there such programs for Mac -> Mac e-mail, (given that the Macs all
have IP numbers?  We would prefer PD or freeware, at least right now, so
that we can see how our users would react before we spend siginificant
dollars for programs such as cc:Mail.

Any suggestions or recommendations anyone might offer would be greatly
appreciated.  Please reply directly to me, and I will summarize if there is
sufficient interest.  Thanks!


  Sean M. Joyce
  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:28:15 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Mac sa a terminal for VAX/VMS (C)

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>White Knight is a great program and as Mike says will have no problem
>establishing the right connection over a modem. But the original questioner
>specified an AppleTalk or TCP/IP connection without a modem; White Knight
>can't do that.  Yet.

    If you need modem, appletalk, and TCP/IP connection capabilities,
then I highly recommend the Mac300 series of emulators from White Pine
Software. It will handle all VT emulation modes up to 340, and I happen
to really like it. I can no have these great 40x80 windows open to my
Unix host and I love every minute of it.

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jan 93 22:37:43 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dieder A. Bylsma)
Subject: New Mac Machine releases

Just spoke to my local mac dealer...surprised that I could get as much
neat info as I did...


New Classic that will be relased (colour classic) is in a redesigned shell.
No big news there...apparently though it is quite squat and in the
words of the dealer 'Looks just like a little piggy...what with the feet
and the way it looks...it just needs ears and a tail'.

Quadra 800 apparently is essentially a Q950 shell cut in half. Apparently
quite boxy...nicknamed 'frigidaire' during development.

MacIIvi has been discontinued. After 3 months!

Centris machines are apparently positioned just below the Q700 (or where
it *used* to be).

Re: PB165c. Apparently is all ready for full production...'cept....
    battery life...1.5 to 2 hours. period. Requires a new adaptor
    for it since the older ones of previous PBs doesn't provide enough
    juice to drive the colour matrix display.

That's 'bout it.

Dieder B.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:14:47 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: PowerBook 100 jeweled bearings search - REWARD!

(Posted for Rick Wolfson, author of The PowerBook Companion)

The PowerBook guys at Apple say that Duo-like jeweled trackball
bearings are in the latest 100's. I ordered a  replacement unit
to see what comes in. Let's do this.

Does anyone out there have little jeweled bearings on the
support posts of their 100 trackball. If you do, what is the
first five numbers and letters in the serial number of your
unit, so we can get an idea when they began to be fitted into
units. This will be especially helpful from our European
friends that may still be getting new 100's.

I'll even post a reward. One free PowerBook Companion to the
PowerBook 100 owner with the newest machine. Send responses to:

     [e-mail]

Rich Wolfson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93   9:54 GMT
From: Big Nose <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerLock Problem (C)

Like Leo Leduc (IM 11 #16) have just downloaded PowerLock from the archives,
patiently unbinhexed and found myself with a useless file. A quick check with
Resdit reveals a creator type of 'A/UX'. Aha!!

I suspect that this may be our problem Leo. Mere mortals, uninitiated in the
wonderful ways of A/UX. But more seriously, there was no mention of the need
for this in the original posting, or in the .hqx file that I transferred. I
have consequently wasted some considerable time, not to mention my employer's
computing resources on a useless venture.

Warnings in future please!

Andy Law
(LAWA @ IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK                      Big Nose in Edinburgh)

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:35:47 +0100 (CET)
From: ALEXEI TSVETKOV <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerLock Problem (Q)

Leo G. Leduc is not the only one wondering about this file, recently
uploaded to Sumex. Looking at the signature I found out that it is an
Apple/Unix file, quite useless for us, mere Mac OS plodders. If indeed
it is what its author claims, he should reupload it in the proper
format

Alexei Tsvetkov
Munich (I'd rather be in Philadelphia)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:53:48 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Fnord)
Subject: Power PC/68060/Taligent/Windows NT

I don't want to sound ignorant, but what is Windows/NT and what is
Taligent?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:22:00 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Question on the features in Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.x (R)

Paul Schwarz <[e-mail]> asks (in IM v11#15) if Stuffit Deluxe
3.0.x (the x is currently 4) can write as well as read TAR archives.

The answer is yes, Paul. SD can create as well as extract TAR archives. One
of the reasons SD has become my favorite archiving program is the extensive
range of translation options (in addition, of course, to Stuffit Archives
themselves). A list of the current translate menu options includes

    Applelink Packages - compress and uncompress
    AppleSingle - encode and decode
    BinHex4 - encode and decode
    btoa/atob
    CPT extract - but it can't write Compact Pro (.cpt) archives
    DDExpand - again, it can't write DiskDoubler archives
    Dearc - but can't write .arc's
    MacBinary - encode and decode
    Segmenting - segment and join archives
    tar - create and extract
    Text Convert - for Mac, for PC, for Unix
    Unix Compress (.z) - encode and decode
    UnPack - but can't write .pit archives
    UnZip - but can't write .zip archives
    UUCode - encode and decode

Having Stuffit Deluxe has allowed me to get rid of a large number of
stand-alone compression/decompression programs. My Hard Disk is happy ;-)
-----
Jerry Wilcox - [e-mail]   All opinions are mine alone
Support shared development with TopSoft, write [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:22:09 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SANE patch for 7.1 (A)

     SANE patch for 7.1 (A)
Nathan Y Pearlstein <[e-mail]> asks:

>Hello, I was wondering if you all could tell me the exact location of the
>digest file that contains the sane7.01. into 7.1 patch.

Try Info-Mac #10-301.

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:33:10 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Stylewriter II drivers (Q)

This is being cross-posted to Infomac and Mac-l.

I've seen a couple of comments in recent days about using the new Style-
writer II driver on the original SW. We'd like to try this out. Does
anyone know if the new driver and related necessary files have been/
will be available separately, either by ftp or commercial purchase?
Or is the only way to get them to buy a Stylewriter II?

TIA for any info.

Pat Ullmann  [e-mail] or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:17:03 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael D. Muzzie)
Subject: the-player-ii.hqx

Dennis O'Reily sent me mail asking me:
>> *(Random tangent: I have recently discovered the ability to plug my CD
>> player into the input jack and hear music in the background with little
>> speed degredation using Antoine Rosset's The Player II 2.5. Hyper cool!!!)
>
>Is this available on the net?

. . . so I thought I'd post a response to the digest too.

Yes! Sorry I didn't say where in my original post. It is on sumex in the
directory infomac/sound/program and archived under the-player-ii.hqx.
Somehow it channels inputted sound to the speaker without using the
processor much. Plus it has a neat looking ocilloscope.

Also, someone in the 1/20/93 infomac digest asked about the "consummate
sound player" that could play all sound formats including sfil, SoundEdit,
Wavicle, .mod (Sound Trecker). Well, this is it! Kudos to Mr. Rosset.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:06:18 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael D. Muzzie)
Subject: the sound thing revisited

Hello again! David Bosso e-mailed me with an interesting explanation and
possible solution to the IIsi sound problem. I didn't see it posted to
yesterday's digest so I thought I'd post it myself.

>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 23:44:28 PST
>From: [e-mail] (David Bosso)
>To: mdmuzzie@phoenix
>Subject: IIsi Sound (re:info-mac)
>
>The IIsi sound problem is a hardware problem and can be fixed by cleaning the
>contacts between the motherboard and the speaker assembly.  The cleaning
>process may have to be repeated after a few months if further corrosion
>occurs, and bending the contacts up and coating them with WD-40 (don't spray
>inside your case, use a Q-tip :-) prolongs the fix.  Apparently the quick
>fix of cranking the sound just zaps enough voltage through the corrosion
>to make a temporary contact.
>
>-David Bosso
>UC Santa Barbara

The fact that [e-mail] has not experienced the IIsi sound
problem (infomac digest v11-#016) might give weight to the corrosion
explantion as opposed to a problem with the ROMs explanation.
I won't get a chance to try the WD-40 fix until I get unpacked back home in
western PA :-) but it looks very promising!

The support for questions and comments posted on the Digest is amazing! I
really had no idea. My e-mail box runneth over. Thank you all very much!

-Michel Muzzie :<)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Tremendously Huge PostScript Files

In a previous article, [e-mail] (Bernabe Linares B.) wrote:

>I have a Powerbook 100, and when I want to print on a Laserwriter what I do
>is printing a PostScript file and then transfer it (usually with a Floppy or
>via
>FTP) to a Unix system in my office. It works, however the PostScript files
>produced (by my Powerbook and the Macintosh in our office), are tremendously
>huge (over 1MByte for a few pages without graphics). They also take a VERY
>VERY
>long time to be printed on the Laserwriter. I removed the bitmap fonts in the
>System Directory, so that the system would be forced to use the scalable
>fonts,
>but then the PostScript files were about 3 times larger !!!
>Does anyone out there know why this happens and how to avoid it?
>Thanks,
>
>Bernabe
>
>Internet: [e-mail]
> -------------------------->

When you printing into a file the system will include all font's description
into a it. Description of postscript fonts is large enough, but if you using
true type it become really huge! (description of one truetupe font takes
about 1.5 meg).
The only way to avoid it is to use progamms that can prevent including font
description in the file. Trimmer is the exellent programm (actually, its a
control panel) that you configure to not include fonts your printer already
has. If you not using any exotic postscript and true type fonts in your
document (those that are not installed in the printer) it should fix your
problems.
Hope that helps.
Mike.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:26 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tremendously Huge PostScript Files (A)

In 11-16, Bernabe Linares B. wonders why PostScript files are so huge and
asks what to do about it.

Grab:
info-mac/cp/ps-trimmer-101.hqx
info-mac/util/dmm-lw-56-stuff-131.hqx
info-mac/util/dmm-lw-7-stuff-131.hqx
info-mac/util/dmm-lw-stuff-122-updater.hqx

The first will reduce the file size, and the next batch of wonderful files
by Don Markuson not only explain the problem thoroughly, but allow you to
construct variant drivers that print postscript to disk in the leanest
meanest form that will work for you.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:26 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Umich archives--binary access not needed

Raph Koster <[e-mail]> mentions in 11-16 (under the subject
BinHexing on the net) that:

>The entire archive at UMich is
>useless to me because binary capability is expected.

'Tisn't so, Raph.  Not only is just about everything in .hqx format, but
there's even an automated mail-server BART (cranky but lovable) that will
mail any file to you on request. You can even get a list of recent uploads
mailed to you regularly; request that from
"[e-mail]." If you have any questions about
files that appear in mac.archive, you can contact some archivists at
"[e-mail]." And since the archivists will probably
leap in here themselves to defend their honor, I'll stop now.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:14:36 EST
From: Louis Brousseau <[e-mail]>
Subject: What is comp.sys.*?

  Every so often I see references to comp.sys.mac, comp.sys.hardware etc
on IM. I've found comp.sys.prog. on sumex but not the others. At what
site will I find comp.sys.hardware? If there are others, what are they
about?

  While I'm here, is there a forum/digest which specializes with Foxbase
or Excel programming? I know about FOXFORUM and EXCEL on CompuServe
but I find the service very expensive. Sometime I wonder if most users
are not all sysops (free flag) otherwise some of them must get bills in
the $100 range per month. Just getting my mail and posting new mail in
3 forums costs about $30 per month :-( !!!

  Is there a third party vendor which sells a FPU for the PowerBook 160?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:59:27 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Tom Maddox)
Subject: your mail

>the net IS a place.

    So it is.  Here's an excerpt from one of my columns in LOCUS last
year talking about the nature of space and time on the nets:

####
    The megalopolises of cyberspace differ from their
ordinary counterparts in many ways, but perhaps the most
difficult to understand is that they are not held together
by geography.  The Internet, probably the largest city in
cyberspace, is all over the world map:  Berkeley, Tokyo,
Oxford, Houston, Toronto, and thousands of other places.
More confusing yet, what defines a cyberspace city differs
>From one network to another:  Usenet is the network of
those machines that exchange Usenet news; the Internet is
the network of those machines that communicate by TCP/IP
protocols and allow FTP and Telnet access to one another,
and so on.  These details do not matter to most users; what
matters is that the cyberspace city has an abstract and
complex structure that really must be experienced to be
understood.

    What is important in network connections is not the
geographical proximity of two or more machines but the ways
they connect.  If I have a very fast and continuous
connection to a computer three thousand or more miles away,
then we are very "close" to one another; if I have a slow
and intermittent connection to one in my neighborhood, we
are very "far". If one connection allows sophisticated
Internet services (FTP and Telnet, but don't worry about
those terms if you don't understand them) while another
doesn't, the first connection will take me places and allow
me to do things the second one won't. Space has been
redefined.

    So has time.  Because of the peculiar nature of
cyberspace, we can find ourselves responding to messages
that themselves are responses to messages that we won't see
until later.  Seeming temporal paradox ensues, in which we
have causes preceding effects.  In fact, every user on the
network has what might be called a local frame of
reference, which determines how the network looks to him or
her, or, more to the point, in what order events on the
network happen for him or her.  Network relations are
governed by a kind of Cyber/Special Relativity:  this takes
a little getting used to.
####

Etc.

Yours,
                Tom Maddox
                [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:01:56 -0500
From: [e-mail] (USENET News)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: expert.cc.purdue.edu!lingerke
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: Does this Comm Tool Exist?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:01:31 GMT
Lines: 21

Are there any programs or tools which would allow me to do the following AFTER
I have a modem connection?

- Use my Mac to FTP or Gopher somewhere?
- Use my Mac to UUCP somewhere?
- Use my Mac to NNTP somewhere?
- Use Mac TCP over a serial line modem connection?

Am I asking the impossible?

An example:  I telnet a news server and want to read news with a Mac
program.  This might possibly be done from Unix and then calling up the
Mac program.

Ken Linger
[e-mail]
--

    Ken Linger                              [e-mail]
    School of Computer Science              [e-mail]
    Purdue University                       AOL:  Ken Linger

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